irishmanhere we prefer joe "Louis" instead of mae west, has anybody talked to this rene Bernard, it looks like he has an investment firm called w&s Bernard inc, if nobody has dime to phone i'll sell 3 of my shares and make the call, I want to know if his brother, maybe wilfried Bernard, is also buying dec besides buying mtb, as old holders know mtb owns 35% of red cliff and dec owns the rest, in the past every time wilfried bought mtb shares somebody was buying dec shares through fidelity, now for some reason wilfried is buying mtb shares through td where in the past he was buying mtb shares through itg, wilfried is listed as an insider of mtb since he has over 10% of the shares, he may not have 10% of dec so that's why he's not listed as an insider, so we don't know if wilfried is buying dec shares, he may have no dec shares or he may have 9% of the dec shares, until he gets to 10% we'll never know