Here we are againI have come to the realization that they are many idiot traders in the world. You may laugh at Iamwcw and myself alike but the cold hard facts are the share price of this company. I agree that there is definitely a different way of expressing the facts other than what Iamwcw does however there is just stupidity on this forum with PMT. There was a conservative cashflow estimated by Sue and her team a while back based on 90 dollar oil and 5 dollar nat gas. It should not be a surprise that PMT is trading where it is given the prices today of these commodities. I said over 4 years ago that nat gas will be a 5-10 year out recovery and received much slack for saying so. However, all those bids of 1.20 and 1.40 that have been filled in the past 4 years have lost 50 percent in value with the long time holders here. This company is not a buy and hold company. Sure it looks cheap right now but this company is in for some more rough times. And seriously, please stop posting the withdrawls and big numbers etc that has nothing to do with anything in the long run. This company will continue to get pounded. I see 45 cents coming soon.