RE:RE:RE:RE:time for AF and team to get SERIOUSersk. I am a putz player with approx. 11,000 shares. so if AVO insiders only buy 60K shares and they have FAR more resources then little old schlep me, then in my humble opinion that is peanuts. I ask you, as I do not know the answer. how many shares are out there and likely being manipulated or how many shares would avo need to remove from circ to hamper the shorts obvious game playing? Also, 17 million was cost to purchase, add the cost to market, integrate their cameras into it etc. if a 2 door panel costs an installer 600.00 and you take away all the costs etc. would they make a profit of 75.00 after tax profit? I think that would likely be very good after tax profit on 600.00 so it would take 226,666.67 thousand panels to be sold before they even recouped their initial investment. That my friend is one hell of a lot of panels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Again, I will state because my little ears have heard it from the lips of numerous people. They have stepped on some big toes by encroaching on card access market. Good or bad it is hard to say, I can only say that given the already flooded card access market they should have stuck to cameras. They are NOT in the big government card access market but rather in smaller to mid level. If they do not want to compete with Hik, Samsung, ever focus etc etc video market, they need to go after gov. so whats the point of having a card access panel that gov will not use? You put yourself in lower end market where you DO have serious video competition. If they had stayed in video only, they could have sold and have been friendly to all the large card access companies who do install LARGE and $$$$ systems to the gov. Yes their product is listed with some large card access manufacturers but so is everyone elses. their VMS does not play nice with the big card access manufacturers so that means then need third party VMS companies so another layer and competitor. Think of a brake manufactuer telling his clieints he is going to start producing cars!!! think that would be a smart move? ????? Again, I know the players and only skin in the game is my share value so I want to see them succeed. I see the card access and even the VMS and analytics purchase as an error. 99.9999999 % of Analysts missed every single stock market crash as far as I am concerned, their usual advice is worth the air it is spoken into. All they do is ride the wave and try and look informed and important. If a person/analyst was so bloody smart, they wouldnt be working for a broker or bank but would be keeping their insights to themselves and making a fortune. Think of it for a minute, if anyone of us was REALLY bright with picking stocks, would we be posting on this board. Not saying that some of us havent guessed correctly or been lucky, but do we truly know what is going on? We do not. I purchased stock because I like what they had, knew that video is a growth market and if they kept their edge they would do well. Disappointed in their acquisition ( also buying a building when they could have leased!!!) disappointed in their stock advisers because it is obvious they are getting screwed over by manipulators and obviously are unable to correct it. They have been losing the battle for two years now. When will they get a handle on it AND if market tanks, how will they handle that curve ball when they struggle with current one?