And on to business news.....Starting the climb back a little early? I really like that we're only off $.17 or 2.5% after what I consider pretty awful earnings. Obviously no surprise to many or the sp already has these losses built in, as CT suggested. I Gotta love this support with bad news. Wait until copper moves back a little! Hang on for a long steady climb back where we belong. I'm betting on $15 within 1 year and $25 by end of '17 when all on board. glta