RE:John & EricJibtra, Many of us tried to do a lot more than just write messages. But, what do you do if the main insider shareholders refuse to acknowledge that present management is inept. It's always been someone else's fault. I'm sure most of them have finally lost money. So, maybe they'll start acting like true investors. PooBear, if you've got something working, I'm behind you 100%. This isn't personal, it's business. So, if it's a matter that present mgt is just overly optimistic or hopeful, what do you do? You look at their past performance and make a business decision. This mgt team has such a toxic relationship with all the parties involved that they will never get anything approved. I just wish the larger shareholders would start to see the light of day. We need about 7,000,000 shares to change this Board. PooBear, I hope you can make it happen. It would be great if all of you contacted PooBear (assuming he really has something working) on the message box of this bullboard & let him know how many shares you have & whether you'll support his efforts. PooBear, I'm in!