My 1.08 present value does have some speculativity there butBefore the banks started to withhold mmooney from this sector. You could add that to any sp and was. Standard. The banks have been coming back and t it's official now that most western banks have been shorting gold to make a quick buck. And in doing so you need to employ low life's to spead untruths a lot. To make sure you get your short. Real price be damed the hell with the regular honest investors. Banks realy are as rotten as you think Anyway. Knowing the abilities and you have to factor that in. Of our management and the Bulls surrounding us. You have to add some spec. You don't have to just stick to mc to float.