gold up, venture up over 1% today, dec downand almost every gold stock up today, what does management think about when they see statements like this, don't they know they are to blame, they've been sitting on one of the biggest deposits for how many years now, where are the news releases, on June 2 they said they showed 263.8g/t at red cliff, there's nothing new reported at red cliff for 2 months on now???, on july 14 they reported 500m drilled at bow, and so......