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Coloured Ties Capital Inc V.TIE

Alternate Symbol(s):  APEOF

Coloured Ties Capital Inc. is a Canada-based investment company. The Company is focused on investing in early-stage commercial ventures and provides investee companies with capital market access and advisory services. The Company invests in equity, debt and convertible securities, which the Company intends will be acquired and held both for long-term capital appreciation and shorter-term gains. The Company’s investment strategy also includes structuring and initiating deals focused on resources, themes, or regions as well as launching the development of businesses in select industries by helping with the hiring of management teams, providing seed capital and facilitating the transition of such private companies to the public market.


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Comment by JimTorontoon Sep 14, 2016 6:52pm
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RE:Why I think they will liquidate, and what they might get.

RE:Why I think they will liquidate, and what they might get.Good points.

From BOE’s news release on July 14, 2015:

“The Transaction has been structured so that Americas Petrogas will retain a number of its high-potential Argentina assets with near-term cash flow prospects ……

The Transaction will enable the Company to focus on several key Argentina oil and gas assets……”

Since BOE’s original plan was to continue operating as an oil and gas company, the assets left should NOT be marginal.

As for “Available-for-sale financial assets”, it was disclosed that “the Company has some investments in U.S. dollar denominated bonds issued by the government of Argentina.” The value, C$11m, does not refer to the value of assets in Argentina.

The company had working capital of $53m on June 30, 2016, which is the difference between current assets and current liabilities. Theoretically these $53m could be converted into cash.

The company spent U$8 m for the 30% interest of Bayovar at the beginning of February, 2016. If this number reflects the true value of the Bayovar assets, then the total value of Bayovar assets should be greater than C$30m. If we give a discount of 50%, then there is still more than C$15 m left.

Public_Heel wrote:
   I believe that management will liquidate the company. I really think they have no choice.
  They may have thought of actually making a go of developing Bayovar, but after the PEA,
  I think that's extremely unlikely. So liquidation is all that's left.
 
   The PEA was a real shocker, at least it was to me. $279m to develop a near-surface,
   near-port phosphate  deposit? I never dreamed it would be that much, and I doubt
   that any of the people who deemed this stock a  no-brainer did either. In addition,
   $278m in sustaining capital? $251m in tax? $344m in other costs? And that's  all
   before operating expenses. Good grief.
 
  After all those costs, we have NPV10 of $71m.
 
  Those with some experience watching companies build mines will know that
  PEA's are always optimistic. Why wouldn't they be? The people doing the work
  are paid by the company. And they want the next company to hire them, so they
  don't want a rep for delivering bad news. Of course, they don't want to commit fraud,
  either, so they can't be too optimistic.
 
  Anyway, mines almost always cost quite a bit more to develop than the original
 plans envisage. What should  we - or, more important, what would a potential
  acquirer - assume for pre-startup capital costs? I would say  that if the PEA says
 $279m, we should assume $325m. Oops, there goes half of the NPV10.
 
 
  The startup costs are far from the only item that can go bad. Any of the other costs
  could be substantially higher.  Then there's the assumptions about commodity prices.
  Doesn't take much of a swing to wipe out a profit as small as Bayovar's PEA is predicting.
 
  Sure, revenues could be higher, and costs could be lower, than those in the PEA.
  But an acquirer - and that's  what shareholders effectively are - must always think
  of the downside and never count on the upside.
 
  So what does Bayovar look like to a company thinking of buying and/or developing
   it? (Let's say) $300m in  startup costs for $70m in NPV10.
 
  If Gromax is that company, can they get the money? Not a chance. No bank would
  lend $300m on those  fundamentals. Debentures wouldn't work, either, and PP's
  would dilute the stock down to nothing.
 
  That only leaves a sale to another company. I suppose that Gromax could farm
  out 90% in return for a complete carry on development, but they'd have to find a
  company that would effectively be buying the deposit, and I  think that's unlikely,
  at least not for 90% of $70m when they have to spend $300m to start collecting.
 
  Stockholders - especially Geren - are also very unlikely to be willing to wait years
  on the possibility of a payout.   I believe that those stockholders with influence will
  demand a liquidation of the company as soon as possible. And Badwi is the man for
  job, as he liquidated his prior company just a few months ago. In fact, liquidation was
  likely in mind when he was hired, but the decision was made to get the best estimate
  they could for Bayovar first.
 
  So what can be gotten from a liquidation?
 
  Let's start with the Balance Sheet from June 30:
.
  Assets
    Cash plus restricted cash: C$46.4m
    Other current assets          :      $1.0m
    N/C restricted investments:     $6.5m  (will this be realized in liquidation?)
    Other non-current assets  :      $2.9m  (ditto)
    Liabilities                              :   $15.6m
    Net                                         : C$41.2m
 
   I'd take off $4m for subsequent and near-future expenses, so C$37m.
 
  That leaves two assets classes for sale, Argentina and Bayovar. On the Balance
  Sheet, they show available-for-sale assets as $13m, which I'm assuming means
  all of Argentina. It's all very well to put that on the Balance Sheet, but that's the book
  value, which does not necessarily have much relationship to the sale value.
  I would say that, right now, they'd be lucky to get $5m.
 
  So a new total of C$42m, or 20 cents/share.
 
  Then what can they get for Bayovar? I don't think they can sell it for anything
  substantial to anyone who doesn't already have nearby operations. Will someone
  want to pick it up on the super-cheap and just put it in their back pocket, awaiting
  better commodity prices? I don't know the industry well enough to even make a guess.
  I do know that for each for $5m of sale price, that's 2.5 cents/share for GRO.
  What can they get for an extremely dubious $71m of NPV10, requiring enormous
  startup outlays? I think it's highly unlikely to be more than $10m.
 
 So there's another 5 cents/share for a total of 25 cents/share. Not what a lot of people
 were hoping for, but the downside (at 15.5 cents/share) is protected. The good news is
 that their going ahead with Bayovar is such a preposterous idea that I doubt we'll hear
 much of it.


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