RE:RE:RE:This Is Reality@Dot. I believe that stock manipulation has played a very large role in drop in price. to me, the continual pushing down of stock has and is creating a level of panic ( in addition to intended goal of snagging stock at low cost, making shorting work etc). you have institutions saying buy or hold, yet they sell and then buy. not sure AVO can buy back stock but it sure would help. like you said, and I agree, product is good. is it as good /leading edge as before? No. that does not change the fact it is good, goal are being met and they are in growing market. we have hashed all this out in the past. one thing that I believe is hurting them, is that they are competitor's in card access world. So large card access manufacturers are leaning towards non competitor camera manufacturers such as Axis, Arecont.... this to help keep AVO out of their sandbox. Now, per my previous posts on the VERY real issue of hacked Chinese product. here is link to story from WSJ https://www.wsj.com/articles/hackers-infect-army-of-cameras-dvrs-for-massive-internet-attacks-1475179428 no sound security professional should ever recommend or install Chinese equipment on ANY gov or large scale corporate network. With increased hacks, it will become even more of an issue. they do need some new / outstanding product that can be deployed for decent price and they need to toot their horn more in the press.