RE:new gold I'm hoping they gave us ALL the bad news so that when production starts they will put the highest grade ore through first and make RR look like a real winner. Oliphant is still on the board of directors and there is probably a good reason for that. Here we have a situation where the guys that removed him from his job have kept him in the group and he is going to accept this change in circumstances. The board must feel he is too valuable an asset to just throw away and he must be getting a good enough deal to swallow his pride.