Adjuvant trialFred, I think it is likely that laymen misunderstood. Dr. K seemed genuinely surprised at the 2016 AGM when Vestor asked him about applying our treatment without scraping. Also, not responding to BCG has also been included in criteria for as long as I can remember. I don't remember the exact verbiage. Also, to be frank, invoking MoronicJoe's name as a possible unbiased contributor is surprising to say the least.