RE:My chat with IR...The fact that she reached out to you indicates they realize they have an IR issue. Her credibiity will truly be shot if she's proven wrong. NSU was a dividend play and by cutting, as she notes, those investors are moving on. My sense, given the price stabilization in the past 10 days and in the face of a downturn by other mining stocks over the same time period indicates that the selling pressure is abating. Yes, they had problems with the copper cons, but mining always has lots of unknowns. I read the transcript of the conference call and mgmt was very cautious about when the copper cons problem would be resolved but I also sensed that they believe (and they could be wrong) that it will be resolved sooner than they projected (2Qs). With 4Q losses, they are less seen as a producer and more as a developer (of Timok). That means a different investor base. There's a lot of peeved off investors and they have reasons to be peeved given what's happened, but besides the copper cons problem, I still don't see any evidence that Timok isn't as good as everything indicates. I have followed the company (and met with Cliff various times) since the early 2000s. They delivered on Bisha and I believe they'll deliver on Timok. They could be acquired, but it's complicated as most acquirers woud want to divest Bisha, given the sensitivity of having an Eritrean asset. I still see long term value and upside.