RE:RE:well super1 I have to agree here...and this is my point pretty much. Educated guesses are for "analysts" as Dart says. I can sit here and throw out my educated guess as well...that CNZ will be $1.50 by year end...but again, that does not mean jack poop to anyone but maybe myself. Why? Because even the greatest analysts in the world are wrong quite often. Why is that? Because EVEN THEY do not know how the company is going to actually execute until they've actually done it. Talk means nothing. It gets the hype going, but that is about it. Eventually, the market sees through the hype and puts the share price where it belongs.
Even then...the analysts do not know how the market is going to react to those executions even if done on time. So, again...here we are back to my original statement, and I still stand by it....one can throw all the numbers they want to for a future CNZ share price but in reality is is just that - numbers based on an educated guess at best. The CEO can tell you whatever he wants to on the phone regarding future goals, estimated time lines or even share price predictions, but even he cannot control the market's valuation. Talk is one thing, estimates are one thing, but execution and cold hard financial numbers are another.
That is why I love financials so much, you can't hide anything in them. It shows the burn rate, the expenses, the salaries, the debt, the notes payables, and all the other stuff the company wish it did not have to share to the public lol! I love it, and believe me, if CNZ is going to be a big player in this sector, then EVENTUALLY (when they are bringing in substantial revs and profits), analysts and the market in general will be looking for them to CONTINUOUSLY be increasing their margins, and their profit. Any slippage, and companies get hammered. But anyways, that is a long ways off anyways lol. I'm getting way ahead of myself.
My point is...EVERYONE (even self-proclaimed dreamer Dart) has to wait patiently for the company to execute on their deals. Seems there are many deals and sectors they've entered...so now lets see them execute on those deals/sector entries. The fluff NR's are nice and dandy (even the market has caught on to them know and demands more), but what will really matter for this company is to PROVE to the market that these deals they've entered into have substance behind them in the way of bringing in significant revenues to generate QoQ profits. Then, and only then will the share price rise significantly (or at least steadily in the right direction) and REMAIN there.
The market is not dumb. What is dumb is those trying to think they can sugar coat where the company is truly at, has actually accomplished and what the market should be valuing the company at with "estimated share price" predictions. I don't mind predictions, but realize they are just that - predictions guys. Doesn't mean it's going there..or at least any time soon. That is all I am saying.
I will start prediction share prices perhaps once the company has sufficient revenue generating quarters in a row with cold hard factual numbers on how much they are selling, to who, on what recurring basis, and at what price. Need conrtracts guys and girls...recurring, annual or ongoing contracts with real dollar values to them and concrete number of tons sold/being purchased before any true best-guess estimates can be made, imo.
CoreyB wrote: I will make an educated guess that you are talking out of your a$$ because all you keep talking about is educated guesses, without any fact.
dart321 wrote: I agree with some of what you said but some is a farce. If anyone took the time to research the Bella Turf deal based on their last years numbers they can take an educated guess what the sales numbers to them will be for this year, the animal feed contract is also easily researched and we can also take an educated guess of the sales numbers from it. If anyone cares to continue their research and talk to the company you will hear more information that you can add to these estimates. Thereby taking an educated guess just like the analysts do with the big boys. What is the share price value well I agree that is yet to be reality once the news flow starts again and if anyone bothered to phone the company you might get an educated guess about that also. So the scam artist that give you praise will soon be a thing of the past unless they want to hang around and look like bigger fools!!!