RE:RE:RE:Illiumbird--the definition of shorting is using something you don't own. People own warrants so if as you claimed and the whole point of this discussion is that people who owned the warrants are selling them that isn't shorting my friend they own the warrants. But if people are shorting warrants as they short regular shares i can go along with that--but you had stated people like paralyzer were shorting. When those who actually own warrants exercise them (sell them) that my friend again isn't shorting!!! that is where i was going with all this. I wouldn't doubt that stupid IROC can allow for warrants to be shorted as well. I think this company needs a kick in the backside and needs to stop shorting altogether and in a perfect world that would happen but because they allow it i have 0 respect for them there is no need and no place for it as we can see what has happened here, there is no way the shares should be sub $2.00 yet here we are. In any case, like i previously said, people can try to impose what they like and try to manipulate but i will not be a sucker and i will get what i am after and will continue to hold possibly buy more until i do!