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Star Navigation Systems Group Ltd C.SNA

Alternate Symbol(s):  SNAVF

Star Navigation Systems Group Ltd. is a technology company. The Company focuses on providing aerospace and transportation data services solutions along with hardware and software platforms that assist aviation and other transport related operators worldwide. It manufactures the In-flight Safety Monitoring System (STAR-ISMS), an aircraft computer that is at the heart of the Star Airborne Data System (STAR-A.D.S.). The STAR-A.D.S. System has real-time capability of tracking, performance trends and predicting incident-occurrences which enhances aviation safety and improves fleet management while reducing costs for the operator. Star's MMIDivision (Military and Defence) designs and manufactures high performance, mission-critical, flight deck flat panel displays for defense and commercial aviation industries worldwide. The STAR-V-TRK system is its small-scale tracking and monitoring system that can be installed on smaller vehicles such as boats, marine, trains, trucks, and others.


CSE:SNA - Post by User

Post by rxgcaon Aug 29, 2017 10:20pm
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Post# 26635313

LMAO, seriously? Does this look familiar?

LMAO, seriously? Does this look familiar?
Interesting the number of new accounts created in and around the run up. Have fun folks, I know I am.

Lesson 1: Remember, PUMPERS NEVER Pump A GOOD STOCK. Check the boards for
stocks with potential. They never have any Pumpers. Pumpers only go
after stocks that are moving down or have potential to do so.
Pumpers work to push the price up so they can sell, at
the expense of others or help a boiler room MM make their bones.

Lesson 2: PUMPERS ALWAYS BRING UP OLD NEWS THAT YOU HAVE HEARD MANY TIMES.
New startup companies always have a few bits of good news. The Pumper will
post this over and over again (i.e. "the 43 reasons"). Unsophisticated Pumpers will try to freshen
up old news with a new date or by-line in an attempt to fool you into buying.

Lesson 3: PUMPERS POST MANY TIMES A DAY. They try to wear you out. They
comment on everything, every other post, and refuse to answer any critical question.
They accuse you of "buring posts" just because you challenge their optimism and lies.
THEY KNOW IT ALL! There is no negative comment they won't attack. They try
to control the board. True concerned investors may have to confront the Pumpers or they
will appear to the newbies as being the people with all the information.
This is best accomplished by posting truthful, well researched data on the
company, repetitively, while trying hard not to engage the Pumpers in
direct repartee. REMEMBER - THOSE TAKEN BY THE SCAM... RESIST USING THE PUMPERS ALIAS!

Lesson 4: PUMPERS WILL LIE TO YOUR FACE. Never trust a Pumper. The truth
on startup companies is that they make mistakes…some more than others. What new company hasn't?
The Pumper will compare your issue to a another companies, financials -
deals - management, etc., trying to lure you into making an Apples to
Oranges comparison. Remember each company is unique and while it is
prudent to seek out established indicators, do so with care and don't take
someone else's word for it. Strive to come up with at least a "six-pack"
of indicators so your vision of the state of a company is not tied to a
single barometer. Not doing so is tantamount to going to a Race Track and
betting on the "Pretty Brown Horsey". PUMPERS WANT TO WHISPER IN YOUR EAR
- PLANT A SEED OF OPTIMISM, AND HOPE THAT YOU ARE NOT SAVVY ENOUGH TO
RESEARCH THE TRUTH ON YOUR OWN. This is how they achieve their greatest
success.

OPTIMISM + HYPE + LAZINESS = BUY NOW!!!

This is your money... You worked for it, protect it, so don't buy on the
words of very shadowy figure that "has your best interest in their heart".
Consider that one factor: Someone you have never met, is not a member of
your family, is now, out of the goodness of their hearts - GIVING YOU FREE
ADVICE (that you didn't ask for). It's a no brainer. They have motives
$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Lesson 5: Pumpers know YOU CAN'T VERIFY THEIR STATEMENTS. That's why they
make the vague statements they do. They rely on you being to lazy to
research their droppings other than to scan the board for others opinions.
This is particularly dangerous when you consider that Pumpers work in
packs and often validate and back up each others nonsense with what
appears to be "innocuous and unsolicited" verification by comrade Pumpers.
Let's face it, we are all conditioned to "believe" everything we see in
writing. If others by virtue of their "posts" also confirm this belief,
then we are subconsciously doomed to swallow the hook, line and sinker...
Pumper - 1 Honest Investor - 0

Lesson 6: The Pumpers PLAY ON YOUR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. They can lie about
information and you won't know the difference (unless you have done your
own DD on the company and know the truth and facts). But if you try to present
The truth and the facts, be prepared to be attacked viciously.

Lesson 7: Pumpers play on your lack of patience. You have held your money for
a while. You knew it will be invested in a big stock someday, but the PUMPER CAN GET
TO YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE TIRED OF WAITING FOR YOUR PAYDAY. That's when the
Pumper is best. You are tired. You have forgotten the goal for the money
was to invest in a solid company. The Pumper is bothersome, so you dump it
into a bad stock on a weak moment. Some other susckers also dump their money into it.
Then you try to cover for your loss and refuse to admit your mistake. So you join
the eternal optimists and forget that you lost your hard-earned money. Then
you get labeled a semi-Pumper as well. THE PUMPER HAS WON, AND GAINED A NEW ALLY - YOU!

Lesson 8: PUMP THE PRICE UP. That is the Pumper's job. The truth is
not important. Lies are the norm. Post continuously on the board every
day. They are trying to trick the newbies that are just investigating a
stock. They are trying to wear down the concerned investors on the board and
gain free reign and control.

A PUMPER HANDBOOK:
Do not underestimate a Pumper's influence on a stock. The Pro's are good at
what they do and what they do is profit from your losses. Below is their
"hand-book". Learn from it or you will be donating your hard earned money
to them!

Rules for Successful Pumping:

1. Be anonymous

2. Use 10% fact. 90% suggestion. The facts will lend credibility to your
suggestions.

3. Let others help you learn about the stock. Build rapport and a
support base before initiating your Pumping routine.

4. Enter w/ humor and reply to all who reply to you.
5. Use multiple ISP's, handles and aliases.

6. Use two (2) or more aliases to simulate a discussion.

7. Do not start with an all out pump of the stock. Build softly.

8. Identify your foes (skeptics) and the boards "guru" Use them to
your advantage. Lead them do not follow their lead.
9. Only Pump until the tide/momentum turns. Let doubt carry it the
rest of the way.

10. Give the appearance of being open minded.

11. Be bold in your statements. People follow strength.

12. Write headlines in caps with catchy statements.

13. Pour it on as your position gains momentum. Not your personality.

14. Don't worry about being labeled a "Pumper". Newbies won't
know your history.

15. When identified put up a brief fight, then back off. Return in an hour
unless your foe is a weak in reasoning powers.

16. Your goal is to spike the stock. Not to limit the
company or create a slow move in the stock; be ferocious and consistent.

17. Hype the dreams of profits, as well as the company and the stock.

18. Use questions to create optimistic thinking. Statements to
reinforce facts.

19. LIE, NAME CALL and USE PROFANITY.

20. Encourage people to call the company. 99% won't. They'll take your
word for claims made. If they do call you can always find something that
is inaccurate in how they report their findings.

21. Encourage people to believe in Press Releases..even "fluff" ones.
Encourage them to call the company. They won't out of laziness.

22. If the companies history/PR's are negative constantly point to that
It was "in the past…this is a "new" company.
Compile a list of this data prior to beginning your efforts.

23. If the price drops blame it on the MMs or skeptics, temporary
mass reaction, the market, etc. Anything but the stock itself.

24. If other posters share your optimism, play on that and share theirs
too.

25. Always cite high volume, even when it's not.

26. Three or four aliases can dominate a board and wear down the skeptics.

27. Bait the skeptics into personal debates putting their
focus/efforts on you and not the stock or facts. Divert their attention
from facts.

28. Bash other stocks that would-be investors can turn to
instead of the one your Pumping.

30. Do not fall for challenges on the "values" of what you are doing, it's
a game and you are playing it with your own rules.


Grade 'A' Pumper:
If you post lots of old news, respond to all negative posts with a
positive side. Never respond to being called a Pumper, never post on
another board with same alias. Can spend up to 80 hours a week Pumping a
stock.

Grade 'B' Pumper:
Very good way with words, always claims to be your "friend" taking the
negative poster into confidence, never posts on another board, spends
about 60 hours a week.

Grade 'C' Pumper:
Spends less time than the others but is somewhat effective and gets a C
grade due to not getting excited when Pumper rules say to get excited,
spends about 40 hours a week.

Grade 'D' Pumper:
Needs to learn the basics about being convincing when making a positive
statement. Spends a good amount of time working the stock, maybe 20 hours
a week.

Grade 'F' Pumper:
A complete idiot, most readers are not convinced he knows anything about
stocks in general. The type that says a stock "will fly, soon", but gives no
rationale, shows up every so often but no regular schedule.

LEARN ABOUT HOW PUMPERS WORK: For instance: did you know that some Pumpers
are paid?

Golden Rule:
IGNORE THEM ...learn how professional Pumpers are paid: When you REPLY to
Pumpers you give them an opportunity to earn appox. 5-7 dollars. The
service agreement they enter into with their employer states their
messages will be monitored for content, profanity, lies, etc. but
Overseers and the like don't have the time to check all their Pumpers
messages. Only occasional spot checks are done. Those who manage the
Pumper will generally read the headlines to see if a Pumper is replying to
other posters by name. That tells them the Pumper isn't just "posting
blindly" or repeating the same message over and over since they won't pay
for those..but some post irrelevant information repeatedly anyway.(True to
form a Pumper will put the bite on anyone, even their
unscrupulous employer). A Pumper will attempt to milk three to five
replies per post at one to two dollars each. This way the Pumper spreads
positive influence to as many stockholders as possible. A Pumper will
create this discussion thread because it takes less time reading more
messages than is necessary. This ultimately allows the Pumper more time to
post and make money. In general, NEVER ENGAGE A PUMPER. Make them read all
the posts and think up ways to enter the discussion. NEVER ENGAGE A
PUMPER; if you do so then YOU BECOME THE PUMPER'S AID! If you feel
compelled to challenge a Pumper do so without mentioning his/her true
alias in your response. This will make it hard for the Pumper to use your
post as a revenue stream. Read the news, do your own homework and make
your own decisions. Get real time quotes and follow the stock for a couple
of weeks. Due Diligence is key here. Collect accurate financial information to
Counter their hype.

Know that there will be a time when the stock falls which will be followed
by the Pumpers and those that lost a lot of money. The Pumpers will hype the stock by saying such
things as "it's a BUYING OPPORTUNITY" and "I hope it falls MORE so I can load up"
and deceiving. Their goal is to suck in newbies and potential new investors by
"duping" you out of your money. Take the time to confirm your DD ,trust
your own judgement and believe in yourself, pick your point of return or
loss and live with it. Don't listen to hype or Pumpers trust your own
judgement. Live by the rules you have created.

HOW TO IDENTIFY A PUMPER

1. Check the "Born on Date" Pumpers create identities on a regular basis.
Rarely do you find a Pumper with older "Created On" date. So click on
the Identity icon for more details.

2. Take the time to look at the Pumper's history of Posts. Go to other
boards and see if their is a pattern to the theme of the posts. Pumpers
rarely waste time trying to blend in with other critical posts, unless they
are cultivating a new uninformed assistant. They are focused, and their objective is
to pump the stock to highs, then exit with a profit.

3. When did the Pumper show up. Pumpers usually show up when activity is
in at a Lull, but they can show up anytime when activity up/down.

4. Pumpers never answer direct questions except with another question.

5. Pumpers do work in teams (sometimes themselves as a team). So be
suspicious of someone showing up and automatically having a Shadow to
converse with who supports their argument.

6. Pumpers rarely select "an argument" that can be resolved by
research.


The Pumper 'Pack' Mentality
Pumpers love to work in packs. It provides the quintessential cover to
achieve supposedly "independent" validation of an argument. It is neither
independent nor validating.

Pack Structure: Pumper Packs can be comprised of any number of Pumpers.
They can be purposely formed within an organization or they can be "ad
hoc" formed during a conclave on a particular board. In fact a pack
mentality can be achieved by an ambitious "party of one" with a few select
aliases.

Once a pack is formed, a leader emerges. This leader is usually
acknowledged by other Pumpers because of 1. Knowledge of the stock. or 2.
Recognition by current board Longs (high visibility). Once established the
Leader will usually work the Pack members up in to a posting frenzy.
Constantly changing themes and even occasionally biting the ear of another
pack member (this earns instant credibility), and it doesn't offend the
bitten Basher because he/she knows it is all part of the effect. Quite
sophisticated.
Packs will disband and slink away without notice. Usually this is the call
of the Pack Leader who is adept at recognizing overplay. More often than
not, Pack members must move on because they have other Pumping commitments
to fulfill. They will return to the site of a good hunt over and over
again, until hamstringing is achieved.

What calls a pack together. The Cry of the Leader. Certain Pumpers love to
work together. They know each others bite, how to feign in and out, it is
a well choreographed Pump when pack members have worked together before.
They constantly check their "Sites Du Jour" for signs of Pack activity.
Occasionally they will throw out a "Nibbler" Pump to see if the pack
responds or if not they can work the site themselves. It's all about
effectiveness, time and earning money.
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