RE:Pirate - here is the infothanks goldcat for the info on those companies will check them out, I dont have much info myself, having ned goodman as president still has me holding my shares even if he doesnt stay president as this company grew he is so well known and connected that i believe he would put a very skilled person in his place. he still has 28 million shares, douglas Macquarrie is another solid industry name with 8million shares, a legend and a vetran of the gold industry is a nice team in a .04 cent stock with no debt/no salaries/no options/ no rent..and a couple properites in quebec about 100k in the bank only to pay for filings. 60%+ of float held by insiders. i have to see this play out, i dont think these gents rush things obviously..lol., they are patient! the right property the right price in gold etc...interesting to see wry halted today, western troy. I know they still have 36% of the schefferville gold prop..slim chance but will see if news has anything to do with ic, ...anyways all the best goldcat, nice upticks in paper price of gold lately. cheers