VET is a unique tradeRemember how Talisman traded back in the glory days? On the upswing it traded within that upswing +/- 10% every few months. Now look at VET. There have been a number of recent 10% quartely swings. When I owned Talisman stock I watched these 10% swings vowing to find the next Talisman mimic. VET in my humble opinion fits the bill perfectly. I have a position that I do not trade. But I also wait until the predictable drop then I buy about 50k. Which I did today. If it drops another few percentage points more I will buy another 50k. Then I will sell out when it rebounds to 49 to 49.50. If it doesn't hit 49 for a year, that is ok because I collect my 6% dividend plus my 10% capital gain. But... it will rebound... it always does. If you can trade this 4 times per year and get 10% each trade... well... plug that into your compound interest calculator. I will give you a hint... your returns are greater than 40%. I am not suggesting that you follow my lead. I could be some oddball loser who makes stuff up to sound intelligent. Or... not... If you believe that latter take a long hard look at MPVD. VS