RE:Well that shareholder was certainly upset . . . .I was at pdac last year, i spoke directly to the Trevali team, I believe 100 percent they want what we have, and they know what is in the ground- they had sampkes there, and showed me what "we" had- meaning Puma and T.V. Trevali has its own issues right now, and with time they will sort them out and move forward with Puma and start mining at Caribou...