RE:RE:Debenture conversionhawkowl1 wrote: So let Zargon issue how many shares to convert debs with equity at 4 cents.Do the math.
Then shares fall to one cent and you will be beahatching about how unfair to debenture holders.
A lot of new people on this board..What a coincidence..lol
First, not necessarily coincidence. Can't speak for others, but when the voting forms and information circular arrived, I went looking for what other people were thinking. Some of the comments here made sense to me, others did not. I'm not surprised at all that others are also looking and perhaps confused.
Management has a egal duty to look after shareholder interests. There is no doubt in my mind that xisting shareholders get diluted, one way or the other. They get diluted less at 10 cents conversion than they do at 4 cents, so thats just management doing it's job.
I'm not a shareholder and my interest isn't necessarily the shareholder's interest. All the hypothetical talk about buyers lurking in the weeds waiting to snap up the company after conversion is simple speculation. The deciding factor that would push a buyer to act is "When can I get the best deal". Obviously if a potential buyer thinks the shares will pop after the deal, he'd move now and capture that value. Waiting implies thinking the price will be lower ...
I don't know what Zargon will be worth on December 31 2019. That is out of my control. What I do know is that if I convert today, at today's terms, I'm settling for 40 cents on the dollar, and giving up future interest payments. If the shares sink further after that (which on the balance seems more likely than not) the results get worse.
If I don't convert, I am first of all entitled to interest payments (probably in shares at 95% of market price). While my experience in other places is that the trustee sells those shares and I get cash, I don't see anything in the prospectus requiring that to happen. I may simply have shares transferred to me, to sell or hold as I wish. And on December 31, I get my debentures redeemed at 95% of market price.
Now, if things get worse, I'm pretty indifferent as to whether I own 92% or 96% of a worthless company. So, I'm no worse off waiting. Best case is that things improve: oil prices are all over the place, and discounts have been between $10 and $50 in the past month, so that's not impossible. If the share take on real value then I have a reasonable liklihood of recovering face value on my debentures, plus 15 months interest. That is what I signed up for when I bought debentures. If I achieve that, I don't really care if the shareholders go from 4 cents to 20 cents at the same time.
Bottom line: if I was (or if you are) risk averse, sell the debentures (looks like you can get $30-$35 per $100FV), take the capital loss and walk away.
If you are willing to hang on though I see no particular value in accepting this offer. If the company is worthless by December 31 2019 it won't matter if you hold shares or debentures. If receivership is in the future, I'd prefer being in the position of a debtholder, to the position of shareholder. Yes there's the hypothetical case of converting at 10 cents and the shares go up, but I personally did not buy debentures in order to play the capital gains game. If that (improbable) event happens, I will be happy to exit with the face value of my debentures, plus interest.