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porksnifferon Mar 28, 2019 12:16pm
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RE:While $14.25 is a stinker bid....
RE:While $14.25 is a stinker bid....Warrior99 wrote:
... I guess that's what this management deserves. The stock was trading at $18 just in July, roughly when the markets TSX/S&P etc, were at today's levels.
How can it trade at $11, and barely $14+ offer be a "fair" price in any sane management's opinion is beyond my comprehension. Asset manager's performance in theory should be the most alligned with that of the markets. How can it trade at $18 when markets are at these levels, without any "premium" bouyout offer just ~6 months ago?
The management definiely bungled big time. Their evasive attitudes on the earnings calls over last few years was also appalling. When markets were going up, they along the their Rosenberg's touted premise that all is "bubble", and that they are positioned for "volatility and downside" came right in their faces when the markets plunged in Q4, but instead of GS long expected pickups and "protection" from these events, their assets and performance nosedived. And no less than any other asset managers.
As noted, this has been a "bad relationship" for my investment $$, and I'm glad to get out of it roughly flat, thanks mostly due to purchases made when the markets dipped and I bought "cheap".
But how long-term investors feel, buying GS just 5 years ago for more than double, even well over $30 for this stock, is not hard to imagine. Hell, even at the end 2009 this turd was over $20. Disgusting.
Markets have trippled since then, and this turd including dividends after inflation has managed to lose you $$ most likely.
Good going Rosenberg and your overpaid buddies at GS. I hope you all get fired by whoever ends taking GS over. But you'll all do just fine, pocketing your $ millions every year for far too long... while investors sucking their thumbs will try to learn to put their $$ in places where no matter how eloquently span hubris will provide decent, at least some, return. Especially during 10 year bull run in the markets.
While I don't disagree with much of what you said, I believe management clearly sees more withdrawl bleed in the 1st quarter (GS 3rd quarter) this year that we have not seen yet. This is the reason you see a major disconnect in share price to AUM, when share price was trending up so was AUM now AUM is trending down so even though the markets are at the same level AUM is declining. AUM has been declining for 8/9 quarters now. Reason for this is anyone's guess but I suspect the high profile departures of a couple of high profile managers is part of the reason. The very well public lawsuit with the founders also turned off a lot of people. Overall, I am also losing here even including all the dividends. Although this would make a good fit for any major bank and even Brookfield Asset, I don't see another bid coming, expecially with the breakup fee.