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Boeing Co BA

Alternate Symbol(s):  N.BA | BA.PR.A

The Boeing Company is an aerospace company. The Company operates in three segments: Commercial Airplanes (BCA), Defense, Space & Security (BDS), Global Services (BGS). Its BCA segment develops, produces and markets commercial jet aircraft to the commercial airline industry worldwide. Its family of commercial jet aircraft in production includes the 737 narrow-body model and the 767, 777 and 787 wide-body models. Its BDS segment is engaged in the research, development, production and modification of manned and unmanned military aircraft and weapons systems strike, surveillance and mobility. Its BGS segment provides services to its commercial and defense customers worldwide. It sustains aerospace platforms and systems with a range of products and services, including supply chain and logistics management, engineering, maintenance and modifications, upgrades and conversions, spare parts, pilot and maintenance training systems and services, technical and maintenance documents, and others.


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Post by investmentitoson Apr 10, 2019 11:13am
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40 second Russian Roulette

40 second Russian RouletteShort Boeing BA $365/shr

Who wants to get on a plane where presumably at any time  (I assume only during takeoff) a computer system that is needed to ensure the plane is flyable could malfunction, and the piliots will have 40 SECONDS to react properly or else the plane will become unrecoverable and fly straight down into the ground? How many people in the room are raising their hands?

Didn't bother to mention that in the flight manual eh? Or did they say it was in the fine print or something.

My point here is that the design change in the MAX made the plane unstable enough that it required this new MCAS system. But if MCAS misfires, which we know it can, then the plane could crash in 40 seconds unless the pilots react exactly as required.

How can Boeing engineers *guarantee* the MCAS system won't misfire? Seems to me "guarantee" is impossible. And if they can't guarantee this, then the MAX can't fly as currently designed, except maybe a cargo carriers.

Therefore, I'm waiting for the announcement of a redesign of the MAX by Boeing, and a recall by Boeing to retrofit the engines on all existing MAX planes. Would this make the stock fall?

THe top owners of BA are not exactly the "smart" money - Vanguard at 7.5% etc. Since dumb money ETFs don't sell on news or fundamentals, it explains why BA is still floating at levels from 2019 and kept pace with the S&P 500 still.

If you'd asked me after the Lionair crash where BA shares would be today if you'd told me what was going to happen, I'd say like geez maybe $200 at most, maybe alot lower even.

This reminds of PG&E: in hindsight it was obvious PG&E was gonna have a day of reckoning because they were causing fires that were buring down villiages and killing people, even if PG&E is victim of climate change and could claim force majeur or something, its hard to rationalize blame in America. With Boeing its MCAS. Don't see how you can safely fly a plane with MCAS on it.

BA seems like a one way trade - even if the shares don't go down as much as expected its really hard to imagine BA is worth what it was pre-MAX-disast. At least its gotta be pushing further out those earnings that CFAs like to discount back to the present so they can justify their ideas in weekly presentations; and maybe require a bit higher discount rate to justify that higher risk at BA.



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