RE:GoBigi agree louel..i was a minority paart of my work but thats history...i woyld have thrived in any fair situation..there is still very much back door deals or connections going on in every union which is not fair..but as for firing these guys that repeat and repeat bad work habits..cant get rid of them..only thing i like the union for is wages benefits and protection but that has to be cleaned up...management too has to be tuned up they take advantage of workers..they favour employees and also they need training in how to manage people better...its everywhere but some unions really do stick up for the good worker..so i think both sides have to clean both sides up but western also has to be fair in wages...its a business but people make the business...