RE:While I am at it, I totally forgot another DUMB FU_K,Not sure why you get so riled up over what anonymous cranks post on a stock blog. What any of us post here has little or no impact on the value of Ivanhoe stock. The eventual stock price of what will eventually be the second largest copper mining complex on the planet, highest-grade zinc mine on the planet, and lowest-cost PGM mine on the planet will be determined by battles among titans: hedge funds, sovereign wealth funds, and large fund managers, along with macro economic trends that will govern the value of base and precious metals. One thing that will not change however, is that copper is that copper is synonymous with civilization. As long as civilization persists, there will be a demand for it. Although governments will come and go, the fundementals of the periodic table are not going to change.