typically what happens in markets like today's is:most of the gains made during the session are largely given up by the end of the session. VMD and PTQ may be able to retain a portion of the gain and build on it in subsequent sessions because they are in the right spot at the right time. We know they will continue to grow even when markets start reacting to the economic numbers that will be coming out for the next few years. It is going to be sooo ugly. Especially now that bailouts appear to be conditional upon no share buy backs or divi increases.