RE:what to do any hope or take losses You are not alone, I'm sure there are many of us. I foolishly bought into Focus and Stria about 4 years ago, and have considerably more than you invested in each. Someone on the inside brought me in and like the others I 'drank the koolaid'. At this point I think it's likely they will both go under, my hope was for some sort of news to create a little spike in share price so I could cut a bit of my losses. I'll sell my shares if there is any value left at the end of this year although sadly I don't see anything changing. The agreements and payments between the group of companies owned by CEO Gary Economo (including Grafoid) in my opinion appears to have milked share value dry. If you read the previous comments here on Stockhouse it does make you wonder why there hasn't been a class action suit. The largese of the operating overhead, salaries, share diluting stock options, bonuses and maintaining his private jet seems to have sucked up all money supposidly raised for research, development and promotion.