RE:NDMThanks head....its sure sounds like NP.... hdi plus russell couldnt get np thru with a pro industry harper government.... now hdi f'ed up with the pro industry trump government.... go figure. How do you mess that up? ... note to self...Ask joe ... I know the FN in np do not trust tko.... that is the main hurdkle... once tko sells np for 25 million the new owners can start to work on developing