CancerSlayer wrote: Yajne wrote: This is a joke right? In my old age I forget the solid state battery company that only a couple weeks ago was subject to a new class action suit on behalf of investors who had been misled. It seems that they didn't perform (by a long shot) versus guidance that had been provided to investors. One interesting thing that I recall was that Gates was one of their major investors. Can somebody help me here and pull up that old post? It implied that perhaps solid state was not nearly as developed as some would like to believe. So nice try LVN, unless you have new intel...?
LasVegasNetwork wrote: Bill Gates into solid state without silicon
IBM into solid state
Samsung into solid state
Panasonic solid state
Toyota solid state
YUP all the big boys looking at other battery solutions
From MIT Technology Review (published 12/8/2020): Remaining risks
There is a catch, however: QuantumScape’s results are from lab tests performed on single-layer cells. An actual automotive battery would need to have dozens of layers all working together. Getting from the pilot line to commercial manufacturing is a significant challenge in energy storage, and the point at which plenty of once promising battery startups have failed.
Albertus notes that there’s a rich history of premature claims of battery breakthroughs, so any new ones are met with skepticism. He’d like to see QuantumScape submit the company’s cells to the sorts of independent testing that national labs perform, under standardized conditions.
Other industry observers have expressed doubts that the company could achieve the scale-up and safety tests required to put batteries into vehicles on the road by 2025, if the company has only rigorously tested single-layer cells so far.
Sila Nanotechnologies, a rival battery startup developing a different sort of energy dense anode materials for lithium-ion batteries, released a white paper a day before the Mobilist story that highlights a litany of technical challenges for solid-state lithium-metal batteries. It notes that many of the theoretical advantages of lithium-metal narrow as companies work toward commercial batteries, given all the additional measures required to make them work.
But the paper stresses that the hardest part will be meeting the market challenge: competing with the massive global infrastructure already in place to source, produce, ship, and install lithium-ion batteries.
Ten years from now, if lucky imo.