AltaGas Ltd T.ALA

Alternate Symbol(s): ATGFF | T.ALA.PR.A | ATGPF | T.ALA.PR.B | T.ALA.PR.G | ATGAF

AltaGas Ltd. is a Canada-based energy infrastructure company that connects natural gas and natural gas liquids (NGLs) to domestic and global markets. The Company’s segments include Utilities and Midstream. Its Utilities segment owns and operates franchised, rate-regulated natural gas distribution and storage utilities, which includes four utilities that operate across five United States jurisdictions. It Utilities segment also includes storage facilities and contracts for interstate natural gas transportation and storage services, as well as the affiliated retail energy marketing business. Its Midstream segment includes global exports, which includes its two LPG export terminals; natural gas gathering and extraction, and fractionation and liquids handling. Its Midstream segment also consists of natural gas and NGL marketing business, domestic logistics, trucking and rail terminals, and liquid storage capability. Its subsidiaries include Wrangler 1 LLC, WGL Holdings, Inc. and others.

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Comment by rfguysdon Mar 18, 2021 3:48pm

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RE:RE:RE:RE:RIPET

Good Question. I have always assumed it is FOB destination. (exact opposite to your suggestion).
I have assumed this because:
1) Altagas is the operator of the port and has control of scheduling deliveries into and out of the terminal.
2)Tankers generally have more than one destination making it difficult for a buyer to add a small shipment to a large vessel.
3)I must admit … in the industry I worked in (electronics) it was always FOB destination.

Adding to this though…….in the industry I worked in…. if the merchandise left the shipper’s dock, it was included as delivered in the quarter’s numbers. Further , I recall Randy Crawford saying that there was a tanker ½ filled at month’s end so that ½ shipment was included in our quarter’s number. (Any one else remember this?)

Long answer ….. but I must say…. Not 100% sure.

GLTA
Rfguy

p.s. I provided an estimate of the shipping charge from Ripet to Asia as 3.29 usd/bbl in an earlier thread.

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GunnerG - (3/18/2021 2:28:28 PM)
RE:RE:RE:RIPET

RFguy, any idea who arranges and who pays for the tankers to ship LPG?

Thinking if the buyer of LPG is arranging and paying, Altagas would recognise revenue when tanker is loaded. If it is Altagas, revenue recognise revenue when off loaded at destination.

I am thinking it is the buyer but would appreciate your input.

rfguysd wrote:
GunnerG: Interesting. MY thought. Altagas has excess propane to be shipped "UNHEDGED" at $542usd/tonne. This is $43 usd/ bbl. ! This might be equivalent to shipping a full load in the VLGC hedged in terms of net earnings. Clever.

This will definitely add to the bottom line for the 1st qtr.

GLTA
RFguy.

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GunnerG - (3/18/2021 12:08:44 PM)
RE:RIPET
Thanks rfguysd, great information. Great facts, no speculation.

Another tanker on its way to Ripet, the Pertusola. ATA is March 29th to Prince Rupert anchorage. It is passing through the Panama Canal recently.

I was surprised at the size, it is only 1/4 the size of those that usually arrive at Ripet (12,800 GT).

Should be a quick turn around for 1/4 tanker.