re casual success and amo816you seem to be under the assumption that nno is a battery manufacterer. nno has a unique prosess for making cathodes for any given battery application. as i said before when you buy a mobile phone , you dont see qualcomm stamped on their phone or in there insructions. qualcomm is a multibillion dollar company that supplies the 2 to 5 g chips for these phones, and collects a 6 percent royalty on every phone sold in the world. nano is working with v.w. which could indirectly involve them with catl , or any other battery manufactuer. you tell me the name of any battery manufacterer that doesnt want in on nanos patended technolegy.