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Ivanhoe Mines Ltd T.IVN

Alternate Symbol(s):  IVPAF

Ivanhoe Mines Ltd. is a Canada-based mining, development, and exploration company. The Company is focused on the mining, development and exploration of minerals and precious metals from its property interests located primarily in Africa. Its projects include The Kamoa-Kakula Copper Complex, The Kipushi Project, The Platreef Project., and The Western Foreland Exploration Project. The Kamoa-Kakula Copper Complex project stratiform copper deposit with adjacent prospective exploration areas within the Central African Copperbelt, approximately 25 kilometers (km) west of the town of Kolwezi and about 270 km west of the provincial capital of Lubumbashi. The Kipushi mine is adjacent to the town of Kipushi in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) approximately 30 km southwest of the provincial capital of Lubumbashi. The 21 licenses in the Western Foreland cover a combined area of 1,808 square kilometers to the north, south and west of the Kamoa-Kakula Copper Complex.


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Comment by Notgnuon May 19, 2021 4:21pm
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RE:how long until DRC copies Chile and Peru copper tax ?

RE:how long until DRC copies Chile and Peru copper tax ?
spacegimp wrote: devastating : 

"Under the proposed bill, the tax on sales of copper will be 3% if the price is $2 per lb or less. But the tax rate will increase as the price of copper rises, to an effective rate of 5.4% at $2.50 per lb, up to 27.4% at $4.50 per lb and 32.3% at $5 per lb."


better for hudbay and lundin to develop what they can in   north america


Yes, and NCU is the next big USA copper mine and is still trading at a huge discount:

200% to 500% rally >>> most copper miners and soon NCU >>>

In recent months most copper miners have rallied 200% to 500% due to the big change in the long-term outlook and price for copper.


NCU has only just begun to price in the fact of not going bankrupt. 

NCU is not yet rated as a "producer," but rather just as a "developer."

NCU is a "producer" now but the share price has yet to catch up.


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NCU 2021 start up production and cash-flow pro-forma (underground only)

2nd quarter: April, May, June: 

 

Average blended grade of 1.3% copper

Average mining and milling rate 2000 tpd

Average $4.50 copper

Hedge portion of 2.1 m pounds 

 

Production above the hedge (2000 tpd X 1.5% copper X 90 days X 2000 pounds per ton X 90% recovery = 4.9 m pounds, minus hedged amount = 2.8 million pounds 

 

2.8 m pounds X $2.64 = $7.4 million plus about $2.25 m (hedge) = $9.6 million free cash-flow

 

 

3rd quarter: July, Aug, Sept: 

 

Blended grade of 1.6%, 4,000 tpd, $4.70 copper, remaining hedge of 1,000,000 pounds 

 

Production above the hedge (4000 tpd X 1.7% copper X 90 days X 2000 p per ton X 90% recovery = 11 m pounds, minus the hedge = 10 million pounds 

 

10 m X $2.84 per pound (after all in cost) = $28 million, plus about $1 million from the hedge = $29 million free cash-flow

 

 

4th quarter: Oct, Nov, Dec:

 

Grade 1.9%, 5,000 tpd, no hedge, $4.70 copper

5000 X 1.9% copper X 90 days X 90% recovery = 15.4 m pounds copper

15.4 m X $2.84 per pound = $44 m free cash-flow


2021 q2 + q3 + q4 total = $49 million free cash-flow


2022 (using $4.70 copper, underground only) = $184,000,000 free cash-flow.

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Current underground mine as a stand alone after ramp up at $4.70 copper:

 

65 million pounds per year x $2.84 ($4.70 - $1.86 = $2.84)

 

Free cash-flow of about $184 million USD per year at a conservative, low 5 X cash-flow multiple = $923 million, divided by 1.8 billion shares = $0.51 USD = $0.62 CAD

 

 

OPEN PIT (valued as not yet developed at $4.70 copper:)

 

IRR (7.5% discounted) of 44% (extrapolated from NCU's Oct 2020 presentation)


NPV of $2.35 b/ 1.8 b shares = $1.30 (then discounted 75% by me) =  $0.33 USD = $0.40 CAD

 

Total share price:$0.62 + $0.40  = $1.02 CAD



My numbers on the underground mine after ramp up combined with the future
open pit:


at $4.50 copper, 2.3 billion fully diluted shares and 70,000 TPD open pit:

 

70,000 tpd X .005 copper equivalent X 88% recovery X 2000 pounds per ton X 365 days per year = 225 million pounds plus 65 million pounds from underground = 290 million pounds X ~ $2.50 profit = $725,000,000 free cash-flow per year.

 

 

$0.725 billion p/year cash flow X5 multiple = $3.63 billion / 2.3 billion shares = $1.58 USD p/s

 

$0.725 billion p/year cash flow X6 multiple = $4.35 billion / 2.3 billion shares = $1.89 USD p/s

 

$0.725 billion p/year cash flow X7 multiple = $5.08 billion / 2.3 billion shares = $2.21 USD p/s

 

$0.725 billion p/year cash flow X8 multiple = $5.80 billion / 2.3 billion shares = $2.52 USD p/s

 

$0.725 billion p/year cash flow X9 multiple = $6.53 billion / 2.3 billion shares = $2.84 USD p/s

 

$0.725 billion p/year cash flow X10multiple =$7.25 billion / 2.3 billion shares = $3.15 USD p/s

 

  $1.96 CAD to $3.91 CAD per share



 

At $5.00 copper, 2.3 billion fully diluted shares and 70,000 TPD

 

70,000 tpd X .005 copper equivalent X 88% recovery X 2000 pounds per ton X 365 days per year = 225 million pounds, plus 65 million pounds from underground = 290 million pounds X ~ $3.00 profit = $870,000,000 free cash-flow per year.

 

 

$0.87 billion p/year cash flow X5 multiple = $4.35 billion / 2.3 billion shares = $1.89 USD p/s

 

$0.87 billion p/year cash flow X6 multiple = $5.22 billion / 2.3 billion shares = $2.27 USD p/s

 

$0.87 billion p/year cash flow X7 multiple = $6.09 billion / 2.3 billion shares = $2.65 USD p/s

 

$0.87 billion p/year cash flow X8 multiple = $6.96 billion / 2.3 billion shares = $3.03 USD p/s

 

$0.87 billion p/year cash flow X9 multiple = $7.83 billion / 2.3 billion shares = $3.40 USD p/s

 

$0.87 billion p/year cash flow X10multiple =$8.70 billion / 2.3 billion shares = $3.78 USD p/s

 

  $2.36 CAD to $4.72 CAD per share
 

 


A consolidation of the share count WILL happen soon

June 30 is the AGM and the consolidation will be announced then
I am hoping for 
20:1 thus fully dilluted share count goes from 2.3 billion to 115 million shares out.


 

Reasons I own NCU: 
 

Future open pits have gold and silver credits not pre sold in any stream deal

Future open pits are already permitted to allow 70,000 tpd production

Copper running way beyond the $3.20 price assumptions in the NI-43-101

3000 tpd capacity by end of q2

Full copper production in q4 2021

Minimal hedges roll off soon

Covid uncertainty reduced now with vaccines out

No insider selling for 10 yrs despite past issues

Banks lending at reasonable rates

Highly experienced CEO with 3,500,000 share rights which align him with us. 

A mining friendly jurisdiction with plenty of experience labour available

A share consolidation to be announced June 17 2021 = institutional buying and margin
Expansion drilling underway, so decades more resources will be added

 

 

Potential risks include:

Problems with the mine plan leading to more cost
Copper price dropping a lot
Mine accidents
Another Covid shut down

 

 

Interpretation of the 2020 share price collapse:

 

Covid hit and the mine was shut down. It was bad timing in terms of funds to get production up and running. Cash was not there and it looked like another dilution was to happen

 

Selling came in with very little buying support. Then the situation changed for the better yet investors were scared.

 

 

Insider average share cost:

 

Pala / Iorich  ~40 % owner           > $0.51 (calculated as of January financing)

NCU director Nutter                     > $0.32 (calculated as of Dec 2020)

NCU director Albanese                > $ 0.41 

NCU director Brown                     > $0.31

NCU chairman Gill                       > $0.21

NCU senior VP Joseph                > $.32

NCU director Cochrane                > $0.67

 

 

 

 

NCU: Some history on the underground portion: 

 

Throughout 2019 copper prices declined about $0.75 per pound, from ~$3.00 to ~ $2.25 (March of 2020) This was the first major hit to the share price. The NI 43-101 assumed an average price of $3.00.

 

Quote: "Consensus prices per the 2019 NI 43-101 Tech Report : US$2.83 – 3.20/lb Cu"

 

Covid shut the mine down just when start up production was about to occur. Copper ~$2.25 at the time. NCU dropped to $0.24

 

The share price continued to decline and only in June 2020 did it have a small pop back to the $0.20 area, presumably because copper went to ~$2.75 thus making the mine viable again (all in cost of $1.89 underground, leaving $0.86 per pound net profit.)

 

Cash was needed to get to positive cash-flow and support debt obligations thus the now infamous dilution and refinancing at a about net $0.14

 

Shareholders bailed on mass with the tax loss season and covid doom in the air, leaving the share price to hit 2020 lows of ~$0.07 to $0.10

 

Since then both the copper price and importantly, the outlook for copper, have improved markedly. This affects everything. NCU is affected more than most because going from almost bankrupt, to having a very profitable outlook, creates a larger leverage effect than going from profitable to more profitable (as is the case with other low hedged, mid sized copper mines)

 

Since the life saving July 2020 financing NCU's marginal profit is now 250% of what it was then ($2.14 vs $0.86 p/pound) Note: the $2.14 today is based on $4.00 copper, minus $1.86 AISC

 

During the time copper prices went up the mine build progressed amazingly well. The mill was tested to run great at 'nameplate" of 5000 TPD and the underground hoisting and ore crushing have successfully been commissioned... a shout out to the new CEO and the NCU team.

 

NCU's hedging is relatively small and applies to only the first 6 months of 2021 leaving the vast majority of the copper open to the new higher copper prices.

 

The recent financing converted another big piece of debt to equity so the balance sheet is in great shape.

 

Despite the troubles in the past there has been no insider selling for 10 years and insiders hold a lot of stock cumulatively, with Pala / Iorich holding about 60% at an average price that is greater than $0.51.

 

 

 

Additional 83 million tons of ore likely available underground.
 

More drilling will be done to confirm the size and grade of this ore body and it may easily increase and is very ecenomic at $4.00 copper price.

 

The current "measured and indicated" category is 54 million tons at 1.39% copper and the "Inferred" is 29 million tons at 1.09% copper. (these are in addition to the 13 years [24 million tons] of 1.6% that we are about to start mining.)

 

Taken together there is another approximately 60 million tons of about 1.2% copper in the measured / indicated category (also subject to more drilling expansion) to provide an additional 27 years of mill feed using 6000 tons per day.

 

The math is: 60 millon ton / 6,000 tpd / 365 days a year = 27 years.

The grade is (about) 1.2% copper average

 

So, 6000 tpd X 365 days per year x .012 grade X .9 recovery X 2000 p per ton = 47 m pounds of copper per year for additional 27 years above the first 13 years.

At $4.70 copper ($2.84 p pound free cash-flow) X 47 m pounds = $133 m per year underground

 

Total additional = 27 more years of $133 million USD per year beyond the first 13 years of $184 million USD per year

(uses $4.70 copper... see calculation further above in this document)

 
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Corporate presentations:
 

https://nevadacopper.com/site/assets/files/4190/ncu_october_2020_final.pdf
 

https://nevadacopper.com/site/assets/files/4209/2021-03-ncu-cp.pdf

 

Robert Pavich Video (last 10 minutes is best)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk_WhFu7FlA&feature=emb_logo

 

 

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Summary of key NCU news releases:

 

2013, Sept 9: (copper~$3.30) 

>>>Final permit for underground mine build, plus loan financing.  

 

2013, Nov 14: (copper~$3.20) 

>>>Stand alone open pit feasibility study filed using $2.75 copper

 

2014, Dec 15: (copper~$2.75) 

>>>Land bill passed by Senate and House of Reps

 

2015, May 28: (copper~$2.45) 

>>>Feasibility results. Mine life increased by 5 years.

>>>A description of economic results with three base case scenarios for copper.

 

2015, June 1 - July 15: (copper~$2.25) 

>>>Three more positive drill result releases, including 400’ of 1% copper.

 

2015, Aug 17: (copper~$2.25) 

>>>Full permit for open pit is obtained

 

2015, Aug 21: (copper~$2.25) 

>>>BLM conveys 10,000 acres of land to NCU.

 

2015, Sept 10 & Nov 3: (copper~$2.20) 

>>>Two more sets of positive drill results

 

2016, June 9: (copper~$2.15) $4.8 million raised at $0.60. 

>>>Total shares NCU shares outstanding = 88 million

 

2017, May 23: (copper~$2.55)

>>>Pala P.P. 10% premium to the market = $0.66 for 3.7 million shares. 

>>>Total NCU shares outstanding = 93 million 

 

2017, Dec 17 and 2018, Jan 12: (copper~$3.20) 

>>>Construction financing and debt restructuring

 

2018, Feb 26: (copper~$3.20)

>>>Restart of underground mine construction after the raising of more funds.

 

2018, March 5: (copper~$3.10) 

>>>$128 million from Pala for an additional 256 million shares. $0.50 each

 

2018, May 15: (copper~$3.05) 

>>>Open pit extension drill results including 42 metres of 2% copper  

 

2018, July 17: (copper~$2.75)
>>>Additional equity financing. $108 million, $0.60 per share; 

>>>Total NCU shares outstanding = 660 million

 

2018, Sept 6: (copper~$2.60) 

>>>$70 million received in exchange for (underground only) Au & Ag metal stream.

 

2018, Sept 10: (copper~$2.65) 

>>>PEA received for the open pit using $3.20 long term copper. 

 

2018, Nov 13: (copper~$2.75) 

>>>Announcement to update technical report to include new info and PEA

 

2019, Feb 22: (copper~$2.75)

>>>Announcement of 5,700 additional acres staked for exploration, thereby expanding the Pumpkin Hollow property by 32%

 

2019, April 16: (copper~$2.90) 

>>>New open pit PFS study published with updated numbers ($3.20 long term copper price is used)

 

2019, May 16: (copper~$2.70) 

>>>$40 million combined private placement and public share sale $.040

 

2019, Dec 16: (copper~$2.80) 

>>>Copper production commenced and ramp up to full 5000 tpd expected by mid 2020. 

>>>65 m pounds p/ye projected from underground. Cost = $1.86 (all in sustaining cost)

 

2019, Dec 17: (copper~$2.80)

>>>Pala announces buying shares in the public market at $0.29 per share 

>>>Pala’s total of the financing =273 million shares, ~ 36% of shares outstanding.

>>>New float is roughly 758 million shares

 

2020, April 6: (copper~$2.25)

>>>Covid necessitates a shutdown of the newly completed mill 

>>>Underground work continues at reduced pace.

 

2020, July 31: (copper~$2.85)
>>>Equity sale completed. 667 million shares including the over-allotment 

>>>This raises $100 million to pay down debt and cover expenses. 

>>>New share price is about $0.14 after backing out about $0.02 per warrant attached.

 

2020, Aug 24: (copper~$2.95)

>>>Production is restarted

>>>Commissioning of hoist, vent shaft and underground crushing continues

 

2020, Oct 15: (copper~$3.05)

>>>Mike Ciricillo is brought on board as CEO. Mike “...was previously the Head of Copper Industrial Operations for Glencore Plc, where he oversaw Glencore’s worldwide copper assets…”

 

2021, Jan 29: (copper~$3.55)

>>>Equity financing; 230 million shares issued at $0.16 for proceeds of $38 million. 

>>>Pala takes down an additional 80 million shares as a part of a debt to equity trade. 

>>>New share total = 1.7 billion. Warrants will bring in about $100m

 

2021, March 18: (copper~$4.05);

>>>Some 5% ore is encountered in ‘development’ area on route to the new stopes

>>>Expect “grade increases” in combining weeks as stopes are accessed

>>>Hoist is tested to run at 5,000 TPD matching the tested mill capacity

>>>Electrical upgrades mostly completed (due to change in first stope to mine)

 

2021, April 21: (copper ~ $4.25):

>>>We are a few days away from the first stope to start extracting 2.2% copper

>>>Ventilation upgrades are progressing well

>>>Batch production is running very well at intermittant bursts of 4,700 tpd as development (and soon) new stope ore is being mined.

 

Ventilation remains the primary constraint to increased production but some intermediate solutions (before arrival of the big surface fans) are being enacted. 

 

A majority of the investment in proving and building this new mine came from shares issued at much higher prices, during a time when the copper outlook was anemic and copper was below $3.00.

 

Now is the right time to accumulate. Earnings will, of course still be negative for a year but cash-flow will come fast with copper over $3.50 (now over $4.50.)

The longer term profit will be immense and will pay this asset off very quickly, including the cost of building the (permitted) open pit portion.

 

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Bullish article on long-term copper prices


https://www.mining.com/new-bull-chart-for-30000-copper-price-porphyries-nearly-mined-out/
 

Barrick CEO on copper as a strategic metal for the portfolio

 

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/investing/video/barrick-gold-ceo-says-copper-is-a-fantastic-strategic-asset~1907821


DYODD
Cheers,
Notgnu

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