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Notgnuon May 28, 2021 3:08pm
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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:NCU timing is perfect for new investors >>>
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:NCU timing is perfect for new investors >>>Quick comment:
Another way to look at it is that I need about 5 1/2 or 6 NCU mines (in 3 years) to equal 1 IVN KK mine.
So what does it cost me in E/V to buy 5 1/2 (open pitted) NCU mines at 1.4 or 1.5 billion each versus what does it cost me to buy KK now (thoughto be $8.5 billion as far as I can tell)
In either case I would then have the same cash flow coming but my cost to get it fron NCU will be about 25% to 30% of IVN (ostensibly because it has the RF effect and is a "major")
N.
Notgnu wrote: In the case of IVN market cap (M/C) and enterprise value (E/V) are almost the same because of no debt. NCU's M/C does not consider the portion "owned" by debt holders thus E/V is higher so our share price reflects a lower proportion ownership than if we were debt free. I hand wave these amounts in this calculation because once the big picture (open pit cost) is added to NCU then the E/V to M/C relationship is not too material.
Basically the way I see it is that it will cost me X dollars to buy a piece of IVN's cash flow and X dollars to buy that same amount of cash flow from NCU (down the road on both is the comparison.)
I am kind of caught up at the moment but I will review it later today or tonight to see if:
- I have made an error in doing this
- If not, is there a better and more clear way to express it.
Cheers,
N
westcoast1000 wrote: Not,
Thanks for the replies.
But let me re-ask my original question. Here is a quote from you:
"Then I created an approximate EV or m/C ratio by dividing $8.5 billion by the $1.4 billion (maybe should be $1.5 or $1.6 re debt ... not sure) and came up with 6:! (could be 5.5:1?) "
Why did you make use of this ratio? What does it represent? What do the terms m/C represent? Is this the relative cost of buying a given amount of net cash flow from each company?
Any insight would be appreciated.