RE:RE:Re Tech That's a very good and important point..several actually. The "debate" goes nowhere because it's like arguing with the religious. You can't reason a person out of a position they arrived at without reason. Just like all relgions t/a is a belief system....it is not science, empirical or as you point out, natural. Natural systems have predictable patterns because they are governed by immutable natural laws...the laws of physics. Non natural systems such as markets are not goverened by laws of nature so therefore you cannot make testable novel predictions as you can with science. Just as people claim by the billions that some god exists they claim that charts can predict the future....well there is no evidence for any of the 10,000 invented gods and there is no evidence to support any t/a claims. They both are entirely "faith" based and "faith" is the most dishonest postion it's possible to have