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Theratechnologies Inc T.TH

Alternate Symbol(s):  THTX

Theratechnologies Inc. is a Canada-based clinical-stage biopharmaceutical company. The Company is focused on the development and commercialization of therapies addressing unmet medical needs. It markets prescription products for people with human immunodeficiency viruses (HIV) in the United States. The Company's research pipeline focuses on specialized therapies addressing unmet medical needs in HIV, nonalcoholic steatohepatitis (NASH) and oncology. Its medicines include Trogarzo and EGRIFTA SV (tesamorelin for injection). Trogarzo (ibalizumab-uiyk) injection is a long-acting monoclonal antibody which binds to domain 2 of the CD4 T cell receptors. It blocks viral entry into host cells while preserving normal immunologic function. The Company is also investigating an intramuscular method of administration of Trogarzo. EGRIFTA SV (tesamorelin for injection) is approved in the United States for the reduction of excess abdominal fat in people with HIV who have lipodystrophy.


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Comment by qwerty22on Aug 15, 2021 12:56pm
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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Answer about the linker

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The facts are in the scientific paper. Start from those facts. Don't start from what is in the patent, that exists to cover all the bases. Don't start from what you believed was true for the last 6 months. The company has no obligation to clear up your thought process. They have an obligation to clearly state the facts and the structure of the molecule is clearly stated in the paper.


jfm1330 wrote: Sorry, I also looked thouroughly at the patent, and nowhere it talks about TH1902 or TH1904. Like with any patent, it is very broad. They cover a very large number of peptide sequences, cytotoxic drugs, and also a very wide array of possible linkers. But the two linkers mentionned in the embodiments (which are the preferred choices out of all the possibilities described before in the patent) are the dimethyl glutaryl and succinyl linkers. So both are there and I thought that out of the two, they finally chose the dimethyl glutaryl, based on the R&D presentation back in October 2019. Now we know that they use both, the dimethyl glutaryl in TH1904 and the succinyl in TH1902, but we don't know why. The company never gave any explainations about that and we only learned the identity of the linker used in TH1902 while they are in phase I. Not good for an investor with sufficient scientific background that wants to understand, as much as possible, every aspect of their drug candidate. That to me is a real communication problem and don't tell me it's too technical to really matter. The devil is often in the details.

 

SPCEO1 wrote: I asked the CMO to comment on this issue and his only statement was the article is correct. Also, JFM has indicated that once he saw the October 23, 2019 presenatation I sent him, he realized the part he remembered (good memory by the way JFM) was not attributed to TH-1902 but TH-1904. So, while there are always going to be questions about the linker, etc., at a minimum until we get actual results from the human trial, I think we can say with a high degree of certainty that the article published Friday is accurate. Qwerty also looked at the patent for TH-1902 and concluded all was well. 

Finally, the company is sure acting like the linker is working and that the trial is moving ahead in a positive way. They don't want to reveal anything until they have all the evidence and can make a strong case, but they have all but told us there is something good going on in the trial. What that means exactly, we will have to wait to find out but it seems reasonable to speculate they have seen some preliminary evidence of tumor shrinkage in line with the pre-clinical trial. We will know more about how many patients responded, what type of tumors those patients had, how much they responded and other critical info sometime in Q4. Perhaps we will get a few more hints at the R&D Day they indicated they are planning for the second week of September. 

For me it is hard to believe we would have heard the kind of characterizations of the phase 1a trial last week from Paul that we heard unless there was something beyond just good safety results being seen. So, we likely have a good result, we just don't know if its kinda good, spectacularly good or something in between. The fact the trial is ongoing is an indication that a lot of Docetaxel is likely being pumped into the tumors, and that should have some positive results. 

realitycheck4u wrote:

Wow. Autocorrect disaster there.
I meant to have it say -- So, what is the summary to all of this??

 

realitycheck4u wrote:

 

so, what is the Subaru to all of this  do you now think this is a higher risk to success based on what you have learned or are we still somehow missing or not understanding how or even if they are on the right track?

 

jfm1330 wrote: OK. I foundother infos that could help a bit about the linker situation. In this article on Table 3 you will see the description of two candidate PDC.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5942387/#R67

One of the two is ANG1005, and it says that it is using the succinyl linker. So who is behind this PDC, here you have it, Angiochem. Who is the founder of Angiochem? Richard Beliveau. Who is founder of Katana? Richard Beliveau.

The first article I found about ANG1005 is from 2008 and it confirms the use of the succinyl linker to load an angiopep peptide with three molecules of paclitaxel.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2538693/

That being said, the problem is that 13 years later, this PDC is still in an ongoing phase III and it seems that Beliveau and his team are no longer involved in this project. I am not sure, but they are not in the long list of authors. Angiochem is still a private company and I don't know who are now the owners. Also, in the phase II study, 96% of the patients experienced an adverse event. Read that:

https://clincancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/26/12/2789
 

 

Safety

Safety and tolerability of ANG1005 was consistent with expected taxane profile. Overall, 69 (96%) of the 72 patients, who received at least one cycle of ANG1005, experienced an adverse event considered related to ANG1005; however, only a small number of patients (n = 5, 7%) withdrew due to adverse events. Twenty-four (24, 33%) experienced any level of dose reduction. Of those 24 patients, the first dose reduction occurred at the following cycle: cycle 2 in 10 patients (10, 42%), cycle 3 (7, 29 %), cycle 4 (3, 13%), cycle 5 (1, 4%), cycle 8 (2, 8%), and cycle 9 (1, 4%). Twenty-two (22, 31%) patients required dose reductions from 600 to 550 mg/m2, and one (1%) patient from 600 to 470 mg/m2. Nine patients (9, 12%) had further reductions from 550 to 470 mg/m2 and two (3%) patients had the dose reduced from 470 to 400 mg/m2.

The most common toxicities were related to myelosuppression with several hematologic toxicities seen at grade ≥3, as follows: reduced white blood cell count documented in 45 (62%) patients, neutrophil count decreased (46, 64%), lymphocyte count decreased (31, 43%), platelet count decreased (11, 15%), and anemia (9, 13%). In addition, 13 (18%) patients experienced febrile neutropenia including 12 (17%) at grade ≥3. The most frequent nonhematologic ANG1005-related toxicities included fatigue and nausea in 37 (51%) and 28 (39%) patients, respectively. Peripheral neuropathy/peripheral sensory neuropathy was reported in 28 (39%) patients. Few patients experienced grade 3 nonhematologic toxicity, including eight (11%) with grade 3 fatigue, four (6%) with grade 3 nausea, and six (8%) with grade 3 peripheral neuropathy. None of these most common nonhematologic events were seen at grade 4.


So it seems that they saw relatively high toxicity in line with usual toxicity of paclitaxel. To have this hematologic toxicity, it means the succinyl linker released good amounts of paclitaxel in the bloodstream. That being said ANG1005 is a PDC designed to cross the blood brain barrier. Probably the internalization out of the bloodstream is longer than with TH1902 and sortilin, and it gives more time for the cleavage of the linker in the bloodstream releasing paclitaxel. This next article tends to confirm that the rate of internalization can vary and that the level of the target receptor to cross the blood brain barrier is likely low compared to sortilin.

https://www.nature.com/articles/bjc2011427

So it is clear that crossing the BBB is not as easy as entering a cancer cell through sortilin, but at the same time, we can see that the succinyl linker is releasing paclitaxel in the bloodstream. So maybe they determined that internalization through sortilin will be so much faster that the relative instability of the linker won't be a problem, but again, mice and humans are very different. One thing is sure, I now have some doubts about the fact that the succinyl linker is stable enough.

One more thing about this linker confusion. Angiopep also made versions of ANG1005, called ANG1007 and ANG1009. It is based on the same peptide, but ANG1007 is linked to doxorubicin, and ANG1009 to etoposide. Interestingly, in this case, ANG1007 has doxorubicin linked to the peptide through the succinyl linker, while epotoside is linked through the glutaryl linker (not dimethyl glutaryl). So why with TH1904 doxorubicin is linked through the dimethyl glutaryl linker, and with ANG1007, they used the succinyl linker, and why the glutaryl linker with epotoside, and not the succinyl or the dimethyl glutaryl? We really would need some explainations about their rationale about linker selection. It seems relatively clear that it is a case by case process, but still, from the outside, it is far from clear. Even though it would look very bad, I still hope that TH1902 is made with the dimethyl glutaryl because it is likely more stable than the glutaryl and the succinyl linkers. That, at least, would make sense given all the infos I gathered about the glutaryl and succinyl relative instability in the bloodstream.

https://angiochem.com/sites/default/files/publications/2010%20JMC_Etoposide-doxo_Che%20et%20al.pdf

 

 

 




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