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PyroGenesis Inc T.PYR

Alternate Symbol(s):  PYRGF

PyroGenesis Inc., formerly PyroGenesis Canada Inc., is a Canada-based high-tech company. The Company is engaged in the design, development, manufacture and commercialization of advanced plasma processes and sustainable solutions which reduce greenhouse gases (GHG). The Company has created proprietary, patented and advanced plasma technologies that are used in four markets: iron ore palletization, aluminum, waste management, and additive manufacturing. It provides engineering and manufacturing expertise, contract research, as well as turnkey process equipment packages to the defense, metallurgical, mining, additive manufacturing (including 3D printing), oil and gas, and environmental industries. Its products and services include plasma atomized metal powders, aluminum and zinc dross recovery, waste management, plasma torches, and innovation/custom process development. It offers PUREVAP, which is a high purity metallurgical grade silicon and solar grade silicon from quartz.


TSX:PYR - Post by User

Post by politicaton Sep 15, 2021 12:19pm
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the $3M per torch dance

the $3M per torch dancePeter has always put forth the notion that a torch sale should be $3 million per torch.
Mcwhirter goes on BNN in 2020 and says a torch sale is $3M ( 50 torches per plant and one customer has 10 plants so just 1 customer = 1.5 billion " with a B ".)  remember that.?
Then he goes on to say the maintenance / parts should follow other PYR contracts and land on the 5% range = $150,000 / torch = $75 M per year for this 1 customer order in addition to the 1.5B.

Prior to yesterday I have never heard Peter breakdown a sale of a torch at $3M like this ....
the Company estimated that each torch sale could represent a $3MM NPV to the Company. The original figure was based on very conservative estimates which projected the initial torch sale to be between $1-1.3MM with subsequent maintenance and spare parts contracts limited to 5 years.
I find it dishonest of Peter to have been using the $3M figure for torch "sales" and slipping in the NPV as an accounting catch all so you can add what ever you want in there.  Now he is talking about $7M NPV per torch using 20 years of future maintenance earnings !!   
This is a salesman at work here .....
All this based on over $300K per year ( twice what McWhiter said ).  At a $7M NPV over 20 years the maintenance / parts is much as $6M or 85% of the NPV.

The 300K+ per year is very much and unproven #.  No one has signed a contract for maintenance / parts for short or long term.  I have serious doubts that anyone will pay 25% of the cost of a new torch - per year - for maintenance.  

We should all be using maybe $1.3M per torch when dreaming up future sales -- and leave the maintenance / parts as a separate service revenue stream that has yet to be determined.
This is how it should have been presented to investors a couple years ago -- but then we would not have had huge upward stock price movement - then stock offerings. 
When McWhirter ( the main PYR analyst ) goes on TV and says the $3M is only for sale of torch and $150K / year is in addition to the $3M -- and Peter does nothing to correct this notion -- there seems to be an effort to mislead the investing public.



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