RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Q3 report not as good...dividend in mid 2022 and not nowThanks Jay and I didn't mean to sound condescending or arrogant. I write so fast I don't proof read my tone or spelling.
Makes sense what you are saying. I have a narrow focus sometimes and I assume everyone has the time I do and trades the same amount as I do.
You are not missing much with O&G sector...I spend a disgusting amount of time on it
I look at something stock related 7am until 1am at night every week day.
TBH if OBE works out for me I likely will retire from kavern23 name from stockhouse and live with nice looking women in some rural area, away from people and not have a phone or a computer for awhile. I love to this to much that I will always come back at some point.
It is exhausting because I have no margin for error, I cant be wrong.
I trade OBE very much similar to how I did with CJ. You can really amp up the returns if a person can get on a good trading streak.
And if you use margin....as long as stock hits new high at some point gains really roll.
Horribely risky and stessful but when it works...it works.
CJ doing fine operationally just that valuation.
And CJ very well can continue to go up. Market decides.
It just the downside is probably greater then normal with a name like CJ on any oil price weakness or softness.
Nutall runs a mutual...any redemptions to his fund on a bad oil day and he eventually has to sell stock in his porfolio. But in a good market...Nutuall helps so much.
I hope it is good times ahead for everyone no matter the stock.
JayBanks wrote:
kavern23 wrote: Jay I am not sure what you and other CJ people see in it over Obsidian Energy.
I'm not judging any producer over any other at this point, I'm just analyzing what I have, it's potential to pay me and predict at what rate. I've been holding Cardinal for a few years now, Cresent Point and Bonterra a few years longer, all of them have not delivered what I have hoped which was 6-10%+ investment growth/returns year over year, it's been a rough go in this part of the oil patch for myself (and that is an understatement of rather epic proportions) and I've stopped looking and picking at producers because I haven't done well at it. But running basic numbers I can guesstimate plausible potential payouts, I'm not even trying to guess at target share prices or asset values. So no one should take my comments as bullish statements on Cardinal let alone over others as I'm not even looking at others, altho I would like to see successful returns here.
I have done small short term trades with several producers including OBE but I wasn't very successful so I've stopped trying that. Instead lately I've been going the Royalty route with Freehold and Newport Exploration so I don't worry about NAVs or producer risks as much, it's just payouts, ratios and looking for good prices of entry/adding and they are been rewarding me much more with less headaches. Most of my money in the Energy sector is in Pembina, Altagas (which isn't what it once was) and Russell Metals. Pembina and Altagas I've held for longer periods but they haven't delivered anywhere close to expectations for me and Russell has been very successful especially recently but I don't know if I'm into a growth by acquisition when all this growth is not leading to a larger distribution to me. I don't think I'm intense enough to analyze and select in the O&G sector effectively, but I wanna keep my toes in the water, learn and collect as best I can.
If you say OBE has better outlook and metrics than CJ, I believe you but I don't really understand an effective entry and exit strategy yet to gain on value appreciation, but I can understand dividends and their potential movements (I just need to stop ignoring warning signs when they are in trouble). OBE wouldn't really hit my long term investment radar because I haven't seen a payout history recently and I've never heard of one being introduced/discussed, I am aware of them and that they seem like a quality company, but because I'm not confident in my ability to making a profit off them most news on them is mild interest or white noise.