RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Conversation I overheardLovehockey, you are right about holding in an RRSP and TFSA, as I do.
Here's my story on both sides of maximizing margin, I would like to share. it is not the investing style for most people.
I was down about 80% overall in all my accounts at the lows thanks to my research and belief in Nutsac's recommendations over a few years as I followed him down the rabbit hole. Frac sand, service companies, permian producers, you name it, everything dropped. It totally nuked my RRSP and TFSA by 80%. Nutsac was the worst destroyer of wealth to happen to my accounts ever. Once you drop 80%, you need to get a 500% return just to break even. Being in this position twice before in 2001 and 2008, I knew that throwing in the towel at that point would be the absolute worst thing I could do and my gut was turning.
Then when WTI went negative, I knew we had hit the bottom, although didn't know how long we would stay there. As I saw ATH was about the only thing could still afford, and that it had the best recovery potential, I put every dollar of my RRSP and TFSA into it. If it recovered, I knew it would be capital gains free there. I then moved 500K of funds from the line of credit on my house, and cashed in all my other 'safe' investments as well to deposit into my margin accounts, and I went all in, on full margins with a tiny buffer, holding: MEG, CNQ, ATH, BTE, SU, WCP, TVE, XEG, etc.
Since those darkest days of the zombie and oil apocalypse, the sun eventually did come out again.
I left ATH unmolested in the RRSP and TFSA to this day, but within the margin accounts it was a different story, buying and selling often. But trying to second guess which stock would rise the fastest, selling one for another is like a game of Donkey Kong jumping from one elevator to another, for those familiar and skilled with the game of my era. Looking back, it was also unnecessary, as all of them went up, but at different times. By jumping, I made just as many mistakes as successes. Today, I tend to stop the turnover, hold, and just add more.
Interest payments on margin are about 2.5% a year last I looked, covered by the dividends I get by holding some.
As the value of the margin accounts increase, the bank allows me to have more funds to add to the positions, and diversify into others. In a rising market, the account increases exponentially done like this. Nothing rises in a straight line, and when it retraces below my cash buffer, I must sell some positions and take the gain to cover a potential negative cash position and prevent a margin call where the risk managers jump into your account and sell stuff to bring your cash position positive. It happened once a few years ago, and gave me a migrane, hence the choice of my name used here, LOL.
Today I'm holding at full margin, and expect to sell off slowly over the next 10 years due to capital gains issues, even after recovering all af my lifetime accumulation of prior capital tax losses from my past failures.
I am buying less often now though as I am letting the available cash buffer grow, that will pay off my original house line of credit, and buy a nice villa here in Thailand shortly.
ATH in my RRSP and TFSA as a 10 bagger has helped save my a$$, and I see a lot of continued upside to it as do many here. From a capital gains perspective, it is in the best place it could possibly sit. There will be no trades in those accounts, so the tax man should not cometh with nasty accusations. My plan is to not mess with it, and just let it run.
lovehockey wrote: elducky wrote: I'm pretty sure I've hit the thresehold where CRA will investigate my TFSA for saving too much money in it. They were trying to penalize 'sopshitacated' traders. But, if anyhthing, I'm a dummy who isn't diversified at all.
I know, I have almost the same fear that they may haunt me and say I am some kind of a fraudster. When ATH was trading in its 20's I was telling everyone including here on this board to load up TFSA's with ATH. Even from $0.30 to $1.5 it is 5 bagger. Those who had $50k room would have $250k now forget about those who were loading those in low teens.