It's not the point to win an argument Kingscorpion The point is to face the reality, not to put your head in Sand, I see a lot of posters do have big mouth and saucy without looking at facts, there is no CEO could tell you some sensitive information in order to please you, he has to be very careful, I see things that you don't, it happened in pass l had to tell few CEO, that they don't fit to be CEO, he should stay home, never rely on everything they say, they say good stuff not the bad stuff, every one has to do his homework, for me CVX les than peanut, though I have plenty of shares .