I HAVE TRIED NUMEROUS TIMES !!!! To ask myself to say good things about RED DEER and tried to tell myself he is a good person.....BUT EVERYONE ELSE SAYS THE SAME THING AND TELLS ME TO QUIT TRYING TO PAINT RED DEER AS ANYTHING OTHER THAN A P0S , SMELLY , SLIMMY , GOOD FOR NOTHING SCUMMY FLEABAG....It's official RED DEER .....You are good for nothing other than nothing..... your a SCAB