RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:OmicronBiden won the last election for one and one reason only,He said ,,I WILL SHUT DOWN THE VIRUS,,,,,,
Kamela Harris told americans during the campaign she would not trust a Trump vaccine...
Personnally I think everyone should get vaccinated but the fact that its not mandatory simply means that its a personal choice,,,Demonizing against the unvaccinated is the wrong approach, imo
Btw DUI is illegal.....Being un vaccinated is LEGAL .....
qwerty22 wrote: The Covid vaccine has been a political football both sides have kicked about. Pre-election when Trump wanted rapid progress on the vaccine front the Democrats were labelling it a potentially dangerous 'Trump vaccine'. In Europe their woes about supply chains and early panic about blood clots had centre politicians jumping one way then the other on the value of certain vaccines. Even just now you labelled the AZ vaccine useless when that is not true. The AZ vaccine has probably suffered the worst of all the vaccines in terms of political mistreatment. It's actually true that all the vaccines show drops in efficacy after six months but AZ seems to generate headlines and column inches to report it as in some way being defective. I'm not sure the data is all that different on the various vaccines. They all have weaknesses, none are perfect, they are still the best tool for the job.
It's completely reasonable for some people to take their time to come around to the vaccine. It's not reasonable for government to punish people for taking their time to make that decision. I don't believe it's like drunk driving. A drunk driver is a risk to themselves and others. Unvaccinated are just a risk to themselves. I protect myself by getting vaccinated not by forcing others to get vaccinated. My own view of the "right" course is to be pro vaccine and anti mandates. There's no doubt the vaccine is the best tool to fight the virus but it's dangerous for it to be mixed into policies of coercion.
Wino115 wrote: Do you also decide to drive when you're drunk because you are FREE to do so? Is that also a risk you are willing to take, but putting everyone else in danger? You do know the concept of the public common good, right? In your world, small pox is still alive and dangering the lives of every child in the world. Right, THAT'S the world we all want to live in!
The point is for important societal issues we've never let people go it alone and fend for themselves. We've always tried for solidarity, especially if you want to invoke the founder's beliefs about freedom. And it has always included restrictive rules that make sense for the common good and that don't always allow you to make up your mind without consequences. You weren't allowed to go to school without proof of multiple vaccines --EVERY YEAR. Did you moan about being forced too then? I doubt it. You lined up and took the shot so you could go to school. Same for all colleges these days.
An enlightened and functioning society doesn't mean you have the freedom and liberty to do whatever you want when doing so makes the situation worse -- which it does because you may have already given it to someone less robust than you who died. Telling us you were fine so what's the big deal is about as selfish as you can get and show's you don't actually get it at all.
You have actually surrendered to the enemy by being a living petri dish for it to continue to mutate and spread as opposed to bravely contributing to the national efforts by being a strong communal member and doing what is right for the common good so we can get back to a more normal environment FOR ALL, not just for you. We've never been a libertarian society that let's you do whatever you want. Never have been, never will be.
Here's one of your brave and free patriots who knew the importance of the common good of the patriotic citizenry over the selfish private interest of an individual. He would say that what you think is an expression of your "liberty" is exactly the opposite --there is no real liberty if people have no passion for the public interest above their own private interest. Thanks for taking all our liberty away with your inability to act in solidarity and put your own private interest over that of the members of your community who's passion for the public interest empowers your liberty.
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“There must be a positive Passion for the public good, the public Interest, Honour, Power, and Glory, established in the Minds of the People, or there can be no Republican Government, nor any real Liberty. And this public Passion must be Superiour to all private Passions.”
–John Adams
gamakichi wrote: America is the land of the FREE and the home of the BRAVE. Making life hard for those who choose not to get a vaccine is antithetical to the American way and erroneous on many levels. If you can still transmit the Virus to others even after vaccination the only argument to get it is if you are afraid of potential negative repercussions for yourself. Forcing it on individuals is ridiculous. I've had the virus myself with minimal issues. That was a risk I was willing to take and that decision should be left to the individual and nobody else. If you decide to get the Vaccine great but don't force your fears / decisions on others. It should be the individuals choice and nobody elses.