I agree with mole on ceoWhen it comes down to medv vs therm medv wins everytime. Like mole said therm us a dice roll and could pay off who knows how much but after acuvid they hwve little to offer. Medv on thevother hand is making wheelbarrow loads of money already and is building a huge telehealth business at the same time. Medv will be bought out for billions while you might see some of therms leg vibrators on craigslist.