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Suncor Energy Inc T.SU

Alternate Symbol(s):  SU

Suncor Energy Inc. is a Canada-based integrated energy company. The Company's segments include Oil Sands, Exploration and Production (E&P), and Refining and Marketing. Its operations include oil sands development, production and upgrading; offshore oil production; petroleum refining in Canada and the United States; and the Company’s Petro-Canada retail and wholesale distribution networks (including Canada’s Electric Highway, a coast-to-coast network of fast-charging electric vehicle (EV) stations). The Company is developing petroleum resources while advancing the transition to a lower-emissions future through investments in lower-emissions intensity power, renewable feedstock fuels and projects targeting emissions intensity. The Company also conducts energy trading activities focused primarily on the marketing and trading of crude oil, natural gas, byproducts, refined products and power. It also wholly owns the Fort Hills Project, which is located in Alberta's Athabasca region.


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Post by Obscure1on Jan 13, 2022 1:55am
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My calculator keeps laughing at me

My calculator keeps laughing at meEvery time I try to punch in the numbers to figure out how much cash SU should be making at current oil prices, my calculator chuckles and asks me if I would like to buy some land in the Florida Everglades.

With WCS at US$68 per barrel: the math works like this:

$68 - $40 (b/e) = US$28/b x 250,000 bpd x 1.25 (exchange rate) x 360 days = Cdn$ 3 billion

With WTI at UUS$82 the math works like this:

$82 - $40 = US$42/b x 500,000 bpd x 1.25 x 360 = Cdn $9 billion

I don't know enough about the refining and marketing end of things to speak intelligently, so I will just plug in the numbers presented in the Q3 report and multiply by 4 to get Cdn $4 billion

When I look at a number like $16 billion and divide it by 1.45 billion shares, my calculator says $11 per share. 

Surely my calculator is just playing games with me because how can a stock trade at 3.2x free cash flow. 

If the company quit playing accounting games to minimize taxes (like all companies do), you would need to reduce the the $16 billion down to $12 billion after tax = $8 per share.

Surely, SU can't be trading at 4.4x real earnings as that would evaluate the company in the range of a small private company with a reasonable (5 year) history of earnings. 

If Goldman Sachs is correct that commodities are only at the very beginning of a 10 year supercycle and that oil is heading for US$90 per barrel, perhaps SU shareholders might be ok. 
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