4 qrt and year end.Well, we are a month and a half away for these results and nothing has transpire, for me this means that they will be just correct at the best and the stock will not move until the end of first quarter if they have something new to give us. I see more lost based on the fact that they are on a kind of restructuration. There is no communications on any part of the business so there is not much going on for now i guess.