RagingBull3 wrote: Amadeus2011, I've made no "error".... I'm well aware that over 80% of the population is VAXED....
MY POINT IS..... GOVERNMENT/MEDIA LEAD PEOPLE TO BELIEVE THAT BEING VACCINATED MEANS YOU DON'T GET INFECTED!!!!!!
Which clearly is a LIE.
So if you apply the "LIE" then if 100% were vaxed, then ZERO would be in the hospital!!!!!
NO ERROR..... Should be ZERO vaxed in hospitals if Vaxed don't get infected.
Remember also, even before Vaccines people could be Asymptomatic and spread the virus. How many Vaxed out there infected and Asymptomatic, continuing the spread, infecting people, infecting children that can't get vaxed!!!!!
You totally missed my point. It's the VAXED that's mostly spreading the virus now.... Yet everyone blaming the unvaxed.
All just my opinion/view/thinking/guessing
Amadeus2011 wrote: You've got a rather glaring error in your math there pal.
OF COURSE the vaccinated make up more in hospital that unvaccinated. That's exactly what you would expect when 90% or so of a population is vaccinated. How could it be otherwise?
You are trying to compare the hospitalization rates of two gigantically different population subsets.
As a percentage of the two groups, the hospitalization rate for unvaccinated people is far far higher than the vaccinated population.
The mistake you're making is called a base rate fallacy. You're comparing the numbers in hospital directly instead of looking at a balanced comparison. Here's a quick bit of math taht makes it clear.
Population of Canada is 37,000,000 or so.
According to CTV's vaccination tracker, as of this morning 32.88 million people are considered vaccianted having had at least 2 doeses (5 years old and up).
So unvaccinated number 4.12 million.
Current hospitalizations nationwide are at 3495. If we take your percentages at face value and say that 75% are vaccinated then this is what we get for hospitalization rates:
3495 x .75 = 2621 vaccinated
3495 x .25 = 874 unvaccinated
Looks scary right? UNTIL you do a little division.....
32,880,000 / 2621 = 12,544 - So one in every 12,544 people in the vaccinated population will wind up in hospital.
4,120,000 / 874 = 4714 - So one in every 4713 people in the unvaccinated population will wind up in hospital.
So if you're unvaccinated, you are nearly 3 times as likely to wind up in hospital according to this back on the envelope number crunching. But the principle is sound. Base rate fallacy is burning up the internet right now because of people making the same mistake and then posting their incorrect results for all to see with no supporting analysis.