Join today and have your say! It’s FREE!

Become a member today, It's free!

We will not release or resell your information to third parties without your permission.
Please Try Again
{{ error }}
By providing my email, I consent to receiving investment related electronic messages from Stockhouse.

or

Sign In

Please Try Again
{{ error }}
Password Hint : {{passwordHint}}
Forgot Password?

or

Please Try Again {{ error }}

Send my password

SUCCESS
An email was sent with password retrieval instructions. Please go to the link in the email message to retrieve your password.

Become a member today, It's free!

We will not release or resell your information to third parties without your permission.

Bombardier Inc. T.BBD.A

Alternate Symbol(s):  BDRPF | T.BBD.PR.B | BDRXF | T.BBD.PR.C | T.BBD.PR.D | BOMBF | BDRAF | T.BBD.B | BDRBF

Bombardier Inc. is a Canada-based manufacturer of business aircraft with a global network of service centers. The Company is focused on designing, manufacturing and servicing business jets. The Company has a worldwide fleet of more than 5,000 aircraft in service with a variety of multinational corporations, charter and fractional ownership providers, governments and private individuals. It operates aerostructure, assembly and completion facilities in Canada, the United States and Mexico. Its robust customer support network services the Learjet, Challenger and Global families of aircraft, and includes facilities in strategic locations in the United States and Canada, as well as in the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Switzerland, Austria, the United Arab Emirates, Singapore, China and Australia. The Company's jets include Challenger 350, Challenger 3500, Challenger 650, Global 5500, Global 6500, Global 7500 and Global 8000.


TSX:BBD.A - Post by User

Comment by clubhouse19on May 12, 2022 10:33am
267 Views
Post# 34677644

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Another tough day?

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Another tough day?On those booked orders, we do not know the specifics of the contracts and what clauses are in it with regards to inflation and raw material clauses. 
We have been told that BBD was paid  500 million in advance that benefitted just that meaning the inventory coat as you mentioned.
  

Look at this piece By Forbes and it specifically mentions price escalation clauses.as referred. The bomber has been selling aircraft for decades, I would think they would follow these practices if the customer absolutely wants delivery. They likely have cancellation clauses also and costs that may ve associated with them

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidyu/2022/04/26/inflation-hits-new-aircraft-deliveries-escalating-the-problem-or-inflating-a-solution/?sh=2a990a473114

I have reviewed many aircraft purchase agreements between manufacturers and airlines/lessors, as an aircraft investor and a former lawyer. They all contain price escalation terms. In simple terms, the price of the aircraft goes up if the manufacturer's costs go up. I am sure there may be a contract in the market that has no escalations, but that would be a rare case and even the most revered airlines have escalation provisions in their agreements. People in the industry will tell you that they negotiate escalation caps in their agreements, and I will concur that those placing large orders or who are established clients, usually cap their exposure. The cap sets a limit on the escalation rate of the price, i.e. the percentage by which the agreed purchase price of the aircraft can rise is limited to the amount of the cap—3%, 5%, 6% or more, depending on who you are. The formula may have a sharing element above the cap and in times of “super-inflation,” the burden over a certain hurdle may fall back onto the customer. It often depends on the strength of the market; the inflationary environment and the relative strength and influence of the buyer. There are, however, customers with unlimited escalations, and escalations are usually a compound formula.

Housefish wrote: The problem with inflation for BBD is not on the demand side (although with higher jet fuel prices, lower equity markets, and a slower economy – demand could get hit) but the big problem is that BBD has pre-sold the next 2+ years of planes in one cost environment, but will be building the planes in a vastly different cost environment. 
 
Unless they have already purchased all the raw materials and commodities required to build those planes, they are going to get hit pretty hard as their inputs costs are up 15% to 40% or more (depending on the commodity). 
 
So by pre-selliing the planes, they have locked in their future revenues, but their costs are floating (and floating higher), so they may have sold all the 2023 planes at significantly lower profit margin, or even at a loss, as  input costs continue to skyrocket.  Thus forcing investors to re-evaluate the profitability potential of BBD.

Additionally, their future debt will be re-financed at significantly higher rates (read: higher interest costs) so that will also hit profitability.

So inflation is hitting them multiple ways on the cost side.


<< Previous
Bullboard Posts
Next >>