Look at TOU what a ChampARX is a perfect example of Capital destruction, TOU is trading at 63.44 market cap 21.3 billion while ARX marketcap is hitting a new low of 9.24 billion Market Cap.
ARX is way to cheap, and it is trading in the penality box with this management.
Time to fire them, they can't even provide investors a competant presentation.
The is conservative and there is plain stupid, and ARX management falls into both these buckets.
IMHO