RE:RE:RE:VALE CHOOSES NATURAL GAS FOR 100% OF ITS PELLETIZING PLANT I should also add this:
Vale ( if I remember correctly) was asking, at the beginning for a 3 MW torch. Which PYR does not have.
This would have a significant impact on capital/processing costs.
So hopefully this extra delay will help the development of more powerful units.
GLTA
raphaelle2 wrote: No this is not what I am saying:
Vale announced that they have put in place with Eneva a 5 year supply guaranted of nat gas, which will start in 2024, for all their pellets furnaces.
What are they going to do in addition until 2029, I dont know ????? except, according to their own statement evaluate biochar...
May be also evaluate pelletizing at small scale using the 900kw PYR torch which, I hope, will be operational after their FAT test...
Personally, this is what I would do. Set up a testing rig and evaluate the process and the product, then decide next steps for the future...Eventually test on a single furnace strand with several torches ( as recommanded by this Swedish report).
But I would not count on eminent large plasma torches sales from them. The nat gas conversion meet their objective for Scope 1 CO2 reduction until 2030.
After that, you have to adress Scope 2, which, in the case of plasma torch utilisation, will require green electricity. Which, beleive me, is not available for their plants in OMAN and China. Quite possible for some of their plants in Brazil.
No panic, just plain industrial reality... and no " exponential sales " around the corner, IMHO.
FUD yes according to this : Find Undisclosed Data...to moderate unrealistic expectations!
GLTA. "Eneva said in a separate securities filing the contract will last for five years." ScienceFirst wrote: Raphaelle2 ... Nice try. Or should I say nice FUD.
So according to you, VALE would have done all these steps with PYR, even a SAT test and planning for a FAT test
our plasma torch system for iron ore pelletization is now on-site with the Client in preparation for first-ever live factory usage toward that carbon reduction goal. Maybe you should try to answer to your own "??????????????????????????????????????????" so you could be find holes in your FUD post. Come on. Give it a try. Try to go deeper in your posts, instead of just playing FUD.
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raphaelle2 - (10/20/2022 9:13:22 AM)
VALE CHOOSES NATURAL GAS FOR 100% OF ITS PELLETIZING PLANT
Holy Cow!
Vale has just made its choice with natural gas for 100% of their pelletizing furnaces in Brazil, China and Oman. This will totally eliminate the use of liquid fuel by 2024. See Vale July 1, 2022 Press Release. Technically speaking, I think this is by far the best solution for several reasons:
- the most economical choice (capital and operation)
- proven and readily available, starting in 2023.
- fully compatible with liquefied natural gas, bio-syngas and hydrogen ( or a mixture of both for the future)
- electric grid independent
They also indicates to be developing additional CO2 free solution like biocarbon.
This raises several questions:
- Who is client A?
-If Vale is indeed client A, why this has not been published before (Vale PR of July 1, 2022)
- Absolutely nothing on the Vale.com sites (Brazil, China and Canada) on Plasma Torch or Pyrogenesis.
Also, what impact could this decision have on the pelletizing facilities of Rio Tinto and BHP in Australia and elsewhere?
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https://saladeimprensa.vale.com/en/Paginas/Articles.aspx?r=Vale_guarantees_the_use_of_natural_gas_for_100_of_its_pelletizing_in_2024_&s=Environment&rID=1580&sID=2