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Theratechnologies Inc T.TH

Alternate Symbol(s):  THTX

Theratechnologies Inc. is a Canada-based clinical-stage biopharmaceutical company. The Company is focused on the development and commercialization of therapies addressing unmet medical needs. It markets prescription products for people with human immunodeficiency viruses (HIV) in the United States. The Company's research pipeline focuses on specialized therapies addressing unmet medical needs in HIV, nonalcoholic steatohepatitis (NASH) and oncology. Its medicines include Trogarzo and EGRIFTA SV (tesamorelin for injection). Trogarzo (ibalizumab-uiyk) injection is a long-acting monoclonal antibody which binds to domain 2 of the CD4 T cell receptors. EGRIFTA SV (tesamorelin for injection) is approved in the United States for the reduction of excess abdominal fat in people with HIV who have lipodystrophy. Its portfolio includes Phase I clinical trial of sudocetaxel zendusortide (TH1902), a novel peptide-drug conjugate (PDC), in patients with advanced ovarian cancer.


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Comment by Wino115on Oct 25, 2022 5:30pm
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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:THTX is that girl...

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:THTX is that girl...Very good way to split up looking at it in these two early parts of the trial I think.  You've put some numbers around what I just left as "unscientific" but nonetheless potentially de-risking kind of numbers. I like the anti-tumor checkoff moving in to the possible population-wide checkoff, with safety always in the background. 

qwerty22 wrote:

Another way I think about this is to differentiate between two things. Firstly showing the drug has anti-tumour activity in a particular cancer (this could be similar to PoC). And secondly getting some read on how the drug performs at the population level (so something akin to ORR).

I think the first 10 patients in 1b allows you an opportunity to get an answer to the first question. The expanded 1b (10+25 patients) is where you have a solid chance to know the ORR ballpark. If you did get a very strong readout from the first 10, say 5/10 responder rate then you can start laying bets on also hitting a winning ORR in an unscreened population. So if the eventual target is something like a 30% ORR then with 5/10 in the first 10 you are looking at just hitting 6/25 in the next 25 to get an ORR of 30% from the 35 patients in an expanded 1b. If the numbers are more mediocre then it'll be the job of the company to convince people that there are things they can do (like Sortilin screening) that can improve the hit rate, it would be at that point where it would become paramount for the company to show a relationship between Sortilin expression and efficacy.

So yes for me 10 patients allows you to answer the simpler question. Does this drug have anti-tumour activity? The 10+25 is a solid opportunity to get a ballpark on the ORR. Depending on the eventual numbers things could reveal themselves quicker. How the 1a signs of efficacy fit in to this IDK. I tend to think they are well on their way to proving anti-tumour activity by the drug in Prostate cancer already, they seem to be being more cautious.

Of course what's building along side this is the safety database as you give more and more doses to more and more patients. There must be milestones along that path as well that impact the nature of the trial. It may be that you need to get past both efficacy and safety milestones to progress to the next stage, IDK.

 

Wino115 wrote: Yep - and 1b is a step in that direction but given it's "basket", there is no one cancer where the number will be statistically significant unless you had some crazy situatino where the step-up to 25 patients in one trial sees something like >50% ORR. But we should be able to draw some conclusions around de-risking certain elements so it moves the program up in value possibly. As I've often stated, the Phase 1 into 2 if successful is the biggest % ROI as shareholder.  It's usually around 5x, with all the caveats around starting point (THTX is exceptionally low market cap relative to commercial opportunity if there's good news), market environment (lousy now), etc... 

That's just how trials are logically designed.
First step -- find the tolerable level of dosage based on safety signals you learn.
Second step -- take that dosage and use a very small group to get a more robust data set to analyze for both safety, tolerability and pharmacological/efficacy by patient type, cancer type, etc.. 
This first phase is really all about safety, tolerability, dosage, recording the actions you see (hopefully strong enough to keep going to Phase 2). So in these steps --where we are now --nothing will really be "statistically significant" in the mathematical sense in all likelihood because it's designed to be a mini trial.

Phase 2 - Use your safety, dosage and efficacy data to design a trial that will be a "mini-pivotal" because it really focuses much more on the efficacy question. Safety is still in the equation, but this is where you want a statistically significant reading on efficacy so Phase 3 (which will be even larger) is worth your investment.  By this stage, you should have de-risked a large majority of the key conceptual issues even without statistical significance if you miss the p-values needed because of size. You may get it, but shoudn't expect it. 

Phase 3. Bigger yet, same issues, but since you are aiming for commercailization you include a much deeper dive in to issues like effectiveness, how it compares to SOC out there, and the risk/benefit issues for doctors to understand it's possible usage. This puts the commercial picture really in to view for doctors and patients.

Phase 4 - LT safety/effectiveness.


 

 

smallcapinv wrote:

"These 1a patients were only there for a dosage study, not optimized for efficacy or a large enough sample to say anything."-Wino115

Time will tell when sample size is meanigful and when sort expression is known in each patient.  That is my take - take it or leave it  

 


 




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