Yes I forgot NorandaI recall a message from last week pointing out that I forgot to mention Noranda. Correct sir., Brascan had already merged Falconbride assets with Noranda assets and they dropped the Noranda name. Glencor still spending money on Mattabi and Geco. I think the Horne smelter and Montreal refinery is the only copper refining operation left in Canada? Large zinc plants in Quebec to feed as well is my understanding.