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Suncor Energy Inc T.SU

Alternate Symbol(s):  SU

Suncor Energy Inc. is a Canada-based integrated energy company. The Company's segments include Oil Sands, Exploration and Production (E&P), and Refining and Marketing. Its operations include oil sands development, production and upgrading; offshore oil production; petroleum refining in Canada and the United States; and the Company’s Petro-Canada retail and wholesale distribution networks (including Canada’s Electric Highway, a coast-to-coast network of fast-charging electric vehicle (EV) stations). The Company is developing petroleum resources while advancing the transition to a lower-emissions future through investments in lower-emissions intensity power, renewable feedstock fuels and projects targeting emissions intensity. The Company also conducts energy trading activities focused primarily on the marketing and trading of crude oil, natural gas, byproducts, refined products and power. It also wholly owns the Fort Hills Project, which is located in Alberta's Athabasca region.


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Comment by Obscure1on May 04, 2023 5:30pm
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RE:RE:Q1/2023 COP CC Second Question by Neil Mehta On Surmont

RE:RE:Q1/2023 COP CC Second Question by Neil Mehta On SurmontI appreciate teh math z173.

Maybe I'm missing something when it comes to tax loss carry forwards.  Not in the numbers themselves, but rather in the fact that there are huge losses in the first place. 

When Suncor bought Teck's share of Fort Hills, Suncor took a big writedown.  When the transaction took place, accounting practices dictated that the entire asset value of the project had to be re-evaluated at the most current transaction price.  The price paid was a heck of a lot lower than the sunk costs of putting Fort Hills together. 

To me, the real question is WHY were the tar sand assets worth so much less today than they were when they were built in the first place.  Maybe it is related to why virtually every international oil company is pulling out of Alberta, or why institutions have been and will likely continue to sell their position in Suncor.

I expect that all three companies, Suncor, Total, and COP have bright guys with calculators.  They would 100% be able to figure out the value of the tax loss carry forwards and every other detail.

Once the number crunchers were finished their work, the numbers would be presented to the brass and likely to the BoD.  At that point, each management team would evaluate whether the $4 billion fits their master plan.  As such, the tax loss carry forward gets reduced to a number that may or may not be significant.    
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