some minute notes from the webinar
there were 50 questions folks, and Shafin was talking faster than I could type, that said, here is what I managed to record, and will post the link soon for the replay. the replay and missing answers will be posted early next week
does not anticipate a dividend this year FYI
does not want to sell any positions for 80-90% discount
with hydreight, grow to 100m revenue
believes in dividend, will reassess at end of year, expect one in the next 2 to 3 years
VST does have a strategy to increase book value over time via hydreight and portfolio
public trading holdings at close to 90% discount
working closer with gameon and xr immersive to get them back up
very focused on digital health
digital health will create value in book value and cash flow
Shafin purchasing 5% of avg daily traded volume in Canada Since September
will continue to buy stock unless he is in a blackout, was in blackout last week for fins, blackout again last week of may, will continue buying stock
Hydreight, number one , Shafin most excited about right now. short and long term, significant value for VST and Shareholders
health a need, not a want, good for recession, cash flow for parent
people knock the NAV but the business is all about the NAV
Anticipated NAV for end of year 127 Million
VST does not consider taking more exposure to portfolio companies, goal is to take in more and scale more companies
10 core companies, 2 categories, first category 6 , hydreight, vsdh, vsh, discreetcare, gameone, and XRI immersive second category, stardust, covalent, fansunite , draft label
public holdings discounted 27 percent to market value for audits
incubating 9 million
private 42 million
companies have to provide all kinds of info, not typing all that
comprehensive requirements for third party pricing, valuating companies
webinar in early june
the business model and strategy of VST unchanged, buy build invest, grow , spin off share price has gone up and down with microcaps, nav has grown, company much stronger
will keep getting better at investor outreach
buyback in 2021 did not have positive effect
company will evaluate buy back next year, will be looking to generate cash flow, may use some for buy back
predetermined exit points for each company, rule of thumb, sell cost base first, plus 20% for each year capital reinvested into new opportunities
might look to lighten positions in companies it is less active in [
digital health built out US nationwide, physical, nurse, pharmacy, license, tech
wide network can supply and service B2b other players in the market, virtual, brick &morter, physicians, etc. very focused on core advantages in the health space, maximum value for VST
VST gets 150 pitches a month from companies VST hopes it backs the right horses. there have been cases where alignment hasn't been there, but for the most part downside is mitigated, and entry point is very very low
VST has great coverage in a lot of areas, block chain, ai, health, climate tech, sports betting, many different areas. super low entry points. allowed to have a very balanced portfolio to manage the whims and cycles of the microcap space
Shafin confident in the businesses reccession or not
internal cash flow generating businesses
5-8 year time horizon tough to answer, definately VST can stand 5 to 8 years in a reccession, outside of that, 6 core businesses, have plan a b and c to provide resources to weather that time period. these businesses are running fairly lean, at break even, close to it. VST for sure can weather it, highlighting the digital health as well, all the core pieces are built out and they are thriving. not to say that the non core cannot withstand, Shafin believes they will, but Shafin will ask those companies the same question
97 million shares out, no dilution expected, someone asked a wierd question
2021 buyback was a costly PITA
better value was unlocked by working on hydreight instead of buyback
VST likes dividend strategy, needs to be executed well, companies need time to develop a liquid market, last two years tough, microcap hammered, will communicate to shareholders on quarterly basis
must maximise value of asset before issuing dividend so it can be meaningful and valuable to investors
uplisting still in the plans for VST, not a priority right now, priority to explore TSX and NASDAQ for Hydreight first
capital structure important, 97 million shares out, 15% Shafins, another 20% in portfolios, another 15% in large shareholders, another 15% in friends and family of VST
cap structure tight, no further dilution expected
VST has 4 full time employees all working for hydreight, but has network of consultants advisors and contractors, this is why burn is low triple triple double double significant multiples holds majority of hydreight, some for advisors, most for VST
VST has been using contractors in india for years, significantly lower cost
Shafin bullish on India in general
next week, shane maden from hydreight coming on next week
VRAR out of sector favor, pushing on, Shafin impressed watching the team navigate challenging time, builders keep building, when the sector comes back its good
Karateka project sold out within weeks, gameon on track for 3 million profit this year, close to signing game changing IP , could be an AHA!! catalyst for them
long term Shafin believes the market comes back around
won't take much to punch up, expects Gameon to get acquired later half of 2022 and early 2023, transitionary for VRAR, lots of work down cleaning up legacy issues, solid product, growing, 100K USD a month, lean team, interesting VRAR applications for immersive experiences introducing soon..... 85% owned by insiders and management., most of whats out came from vst shareholders lol
improving communications with shareholders, immersive still a core asset, will turn ship around and improve investor communication shortly
planning NAV webinar in JUNE, valuations, number of shares, how they are valuated, etc, early JUNE Family office whent well, lots of leeds, good contact, institutions, will be following up with in the coming weeks, Shafin really liked meeting investors
Shafin whent on for a good hour there, meeting adjourned now. looking forward to breakdown in JUNE. srry if my scribblings make no sense, thats about as fast as I can keep up with Shafin. will post the recap of the webinar soon
early next week, the recap from the webinar wil be available, as well as the questions Shafin was unable to answer during the Q&A period.